Caerphilly Ram Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, DantheRam90 said: https://t.co/K1VLy0Hy7k Middlesbrough have released a Statement now.... This is another big development. They have now publicly stated their stance (in an eerily similar format to the EFL statement of last night). The statement is plain in explaining MFC’s stance, using the word “cheated” in regards to our financial irregularities is blunt, it makes it clear from their pov it isn’t going to go away and puts the onus on the admins to resolve. The noise we’ve been making is forcing reactions at least, not sure whether to see them as positive developments or not ??♂️ RadioactiveWaste and r_wilcockson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: This is another big development. They have now publicly stated their stance (in an eerily similar format to the EFL statement of last night). The statement is plain in explaining MFC’s stance, using the word “cheated” in regards to our financial irregularities is blunt, it makes it clear from their pov it isn’t going to go away and puts the onus on the admins to resolve. The noise we’ve been making is forcing reactions at least, not sure whether to see them as positive developments or not ??♂️ Keep pushing. It's a positive. strawhillram, kevinhectoring and Caerphilly Ram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: This is another big development. They have now publicly stated their stance (in an eerily similar format to the EFL statement of last night). The statement is plain in explaining MFC’s stance, using the word “cheated” in regards to our financial irregularities is blunt, it makes it clear from their pov it isn’t going to go away and puts the onus on the admins to resolve. The noise we’ve been making is forcing reactions at least, not sure whether to see them as positive developments or not ??♂️ in an eerily similar format to the EFL statement of last night No collusion there, then? Ramarena, OohMartWright and IslandExile 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, DantheRam90 said: https://t.co/K1VLy0Hy7k Middlesbrough have released a Statement now.... Here's our response: Ramslad1992, RadioactiveWaste, SaffyRam and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullspizz Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 That statement from Boro is a joke. Calls us out as cheats, bit rich as their owner apparently moves money around to offset football costs. Also, they actually state that we were found guilty of P&S breaches and were sanctioned accordingly by the EFL! Everyone is fair game in this then, you can bring charges against any club that finishes above you if they carry out any misdemeanor. I mean, you could lose a couple of hundred grand for potentially finishing lower in the league. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, angieram said: in an eerily similar format to the EFL statement of last night No collusion there, then? Quite possibly….or should that be probably. angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I wouldn't give them £4.50 Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantheRam90 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 This part makes me laugh "had Derby County not cheated, MFC would have been in the play-offs. However, Derby County did cheat and, as a result, MFC lost the opportunities that arise as result of that" So it had nothing to do with their poor form towards the end of that season? Absolute Bamfords! Indy and Abu Derby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuddersRam Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 As bad as that statement is (not losing six in a row helps you get promoted, lads), why would Quantuma not make contact with one of the key blockers to a sale for two months? Andicis, r_wilcockson, Maharan and 9 others 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 DCFC questions in parliament now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK-Ram Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, HuddersRam said: As bad as that statement is (not losing six in a row helps you get promoted, lads), why would Quantuma not make contact with one of the key blockers to a sale for two months? Without wanting to go round in circles, feel Q have a lot of questions to answer after the two statements (even if they've both appeared pretty ludicrous). That being said, I feel like we are on the verge of all this getting resolved, whether it's one way or the other Crewton, r_wilcockson, Dai Capp and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 MFC and EFL under scrutiny and are in the back foot trying to defend themselves RadioactiveWaste, r_wilcockson and Caerphilly Ram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, HuddersRam said: As bad as that statement is (not losing six in a row helps you get promoted, lads), why would Quantuma not make contact with one of the key blockers to a sale for two months? A good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 It's a brave move to use the term 'cheating' when they are also reported to be in danger of breaching P&S rules - old Pubey better make sure that Boro are absolutley spotless in their financial dealings..... DarkFruitsRam7, Ramarena, RoyMac5 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, DantheRam90 said: This part makes me laugh "had Derby County not cheated, MFC would have been in the play-offs. However, Derby County did cheat and, as a result, MFC lost the opportunities that arise as result of that" So it had nothing to do with their poor form towards the end of that season? Absolute Bamfords! Had we not "cheated" the league would have looked completely different or exactly the same. Nothing certain at all. r_wilcockson and RadioactiveWaste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, DantheRam90 said: https://t.co/K1VLy0Hy7k Middlesbrough have released a Statement now.... What this article says is that we were systematically cheating in ways other than the amortisation policy. This is not the first time that Middlesbrough have said this, but they don't tell us how. What else were we doing that makes them so confident that they will pursue us over several seasons, but not so confident that they can't state it publicly without us maybe suing their asses off? And the article finishes by saying they will accept an agreed payoff. They want money from us, pure and simple. I hate that our administrators haven't recognised the depth of Middlesbrough's feeling about this, because it is now affecting our future. And why isn't anyone asking them why they aren't also pursuing a case against Bournemouth? It feels to me like the principle at stake here is the right of a club to take legal action against another based on the application of EFL rules. If Middlesbrough win then this principle is established and football is dead. RadioactiveWaste, Sparkle, Ramarena and 8 others 5 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Gritstone Tup said: They can’t be a creditor unless a court says we owe them something. The first port of call has to be everyone going to court? This is from Boro's statement (only just seen it): "Why are MFC bringing a claim now? MFC became aware that Derby County was cheating under the P&S Rules during 2018/19. MFC first intimated a claim against Derby County in May 2019 immediately following the end of the 2018/19 season. The claim was held in abeyance whilst the EFL Disciplinary Proceedings against Derby County were followed through to a conclusion. MFC then sent Derby County a Letter Before Action in the autumn of 2020 and started arbitration proceedings against Derby County in January 2021. Derby County used various procedural tactics to seek to delay the proceedings and as a result the claim has yet to be finally determined. MFC is not responsible for the delay. Had it been finally determined, and an award made in favour of MFC, there would be no dispute that MFC would be a Football Creditor." It's all ducking ifs and ands, ffs. We've been punished for 'cheating' if you don't like it take it up with the EFL Boro! RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramrob Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, DantheRam90 said: https://t.co/K1VLy0Hy7k Middlesbrough have released a Statement now.... I don't have any sympathy with MFC at all, but what a complete and utter mess for all involved. Depressing that's it come to a game of 'He said, She said'. ? Has nobody thought to get all relevant parties round the same table at the same time (real or virtual) and actually talk to each other properly? Instead of all these claims and counter claims? Of course the EFL seem to be the main protagonists in all this, but starting to wonder what Quantama have actually been doing for the last 3/4 months. Just feels like this could have all been resolved weeks if not months ago. Thanks – I needed to vent my frustrations! Edited January 18, 2022 by Ramrob RadioactiveWaste and angieram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 How can Boro self-appoint themselves as "football creditors" when - as they say their "claim" has not yet been ruled upon. They need @David to explain what a creditor means. RadioactiveWaste, Ramarena, Wsm-ram and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gaspode said: It's a brave move to use the term 'cheating' when they are also reported to be in danger of breaching P&S rules - old Pubey better make sure that Boro are absolutely spotless in their financial dealings..... You mean other than selling bits of the business to another part of the business to get through FFP? r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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