RoyMac5 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) More! Edited June 11, 2022 by RoyMac5 Foxy Ram, IslandExile, Derby4Me and 11 others 9 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, EnigmaRam said: Not necessarily true. It depends on whether they go with what’s already been agreed or want to change everything. If they pay the same, have the same agreements over costs etc then all they need to do is change the names in the document’s, so the fit and proper persons test and transfer the money. Could be done in a couple days. On the other hand, if they restructure everything and change cost payments, purchase price etc then it could be weeks to seek agreement. That there’s no PB anymore means it’s a straight race. Get the money in the bank and it’s all yours. The fact CKs money is just in holding means any other potential bidder knows they can’t mess about changing the whole structure or they will almost certainly lose out, so I expect it to be done quickly. All just my personal opinion of course. All deals take time to complete. I suspect we will start next season in administration if CK deal is ended and new bid is accepted. I agree it all opinions and speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipleyRich Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, EnigmaRam said: Not necessarily true. It depends on whether they go with what’s already been agreed or want to change everything. If they pay the same, have the same agreements over costs etc then all they need to do is change the names in the document’s, so the fit and proper persons test and transfer the money. Could be done in a couple days. On the other hand, if they restructure everything and change cost payments, purchase price etc then it could be weeks to seek agreement. That there’s no PB anymore means it’s a straight race. Get the money in the bank and it’s all yours. The fact CKs money is just in holding means any other potential bidder knows they can’t mess about changing the whole structure or they will almost certainly lose out, so I expect it to be done quickly. All just my personal opinion of course. I'd be surprised if a race happens. Theres potentially a lot of money in fees to lose only to be pipped at the post. So I would guess at one bidder. If MA won't pay Q, he wont want to risk losing fees on a failed bid. But then there the risk that CKs money might come through.....? (The last bit is tongue in cheek BTW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: More! Any doubt as to who Dorset’s source is, is now extinguished. At this point I am not really fussed who buys us but I don’t think Ashley via Dorsett has helped matters over the last few days. Indyram, inter politics, BarrowRam and 5 others 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: More! That reads like the response to the contact Percy mentioned earlier, so Q have reached out and MA has replied and said “we’re interested, always have been, don’t take kindly to being your 3am text after you’ve failed to pull but let’s talk so long as your ex isn’t involved”…. I may have paraphrased a little Gerry Daly, Kinder, LeedsCityRam and 7 others 3 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, nottingram said: Any doubt as to who Dorset’s source is, is now extinguished. At this point I am not really fussed who buys us but I don’t think Ashley via Dorsett has helped matters over the last few days. Did he block CKs cash? Or Applebys bid? whiteroseram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipleyRich Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: More! Who's leaked that? I smell a solicitors letter coming on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: More! "It is not our client's position to comment on press reports "... only to stir up trouble in the media by leaking confidential discussions to the press. Ashley can duck off right now. Edited June 11, 2022 by PistoldPete mwram1973, angieram, Derby4Me and 5 others 1 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, PistoldPete said: "It is not our client's position to comment on press reports only"... only to stir up trouble in the media by leaking confidential discussions to the press. Ashley can duck off right now. I'd rather leaks than silence from CK! David Graham Brown, Derby4Me, EtoileSportiveDeDerby and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisby Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, Curtains said: Lawyers don’t work that fast . Fast??? They only need copy original contracts and some tipex and it’s sorted ? David Graham Brown and SaffyRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 This is all getting a bit big on Quantuma isn't it? I very much doubt they want a big bright light shone on their process, but that it what is happening. Caerphilly Ram, Derby4Me, David Graham Brown and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, Gisby said: Fast??? They only need copy original contracts and some tipex and it’s sorted ? Who buys the Tippex? ? David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisby Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Who buys the Tippex? ? They can have mine for free!! ? David Graham Brown and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: This is all getting a bit big on Quantuma isn't it? I very much doubt they want a big bright light shone on their process, but that it what is happening. Which could help speed up a resolution, let’s just hope it’s to the best party for the club’s future, whoever that is ??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipleyRich Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Caerphilly Ram said: Which could help speed up a resolution, let’s just hope it’s to the best party for the club’s future, whoever that is ??♂️ Anyone who can put up the cash IS the clubs future Caerphilly Ram, David Graham Brown and Crewton 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 I don't think there's anything that confidential in the letter (it wouldn't have been leaked to Dorset if it did). Want's to get exclusivity to close his deal (i'd imagine all parties would want that before getting down to brass tacks) Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Did he block CKs cash? Or Applebys bid? Oh god I should really know better than to engage you in something like this by now, but anyway. I think these are not easy times for any Derby fan, and I think the hysteria being whipped up around it makes things even harder. It is not news that Quantuma were not willing to engage with Ashley when another bidder had exclusivity, and so Dorsett tweeting the same thing in about 50 different ways since Wednesday has only made things more panicked. We can debate until the cows come home about whether or not Kirchner was the right bid, at this point it would appear clearly not. There are many grievances to be had about Quantuma but we can only assume they went with what they felt was the correct bid based on the info they had. He had evidently passed whatever tests he needed to pass. But I don’t think any (and I include pro-Kirchner Nixon in that) journalists have helped things over the last week. And it is obvious who is pulling Dorsett and Dawes’ strings. RadioactiveWaste, angieram and FlyBritishMidland 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Who buys the Tippex? ? Quantuma. Expenses line entry no. 6587 "Tip-Ex, Stationry, needed for urgent contratual updates. £210.84" Gisby, RoyMac5, David Graham Brown and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, nottingram said: Oh god I should really know better than to engage you in something like this by now, but anyway. I think these are not easy times for any Derby fan, and I think the hysteria being whipped up around it makes things even harder. It is not news that Quantuma were not willing to engage with Ashley when another bidder had exclusivity, and so Dorsett tweeting the same thing in about 50 different ways since Wednesday has only made things more panicked. We can debate until the cows come home about whether or not Kirchner was the right bid, at this point it would appear clearly not. There are many grievances to be had about Quantuma but we can only assume they went with what they felt was the correct bid based on the info they had. He had evidently passed whatever tests he needed to pass. But I don’t think any (and I include pro-Kirchner Nixon in that) journalists have helped things over the last week. And it is obvious who is pulling Dorsett and Dawes’ strings. Without the hysteria being whipped up as you put it we'd still all be waiting for Q to tell us CKs money was on its way! Derby4Me, BPV and Carnero 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Ramos said: I love that saying…. so if there’s some truth, which bits aren’t? Is it in fact a consortium but not local? Would they not refer to themselves a a consortium? Are they not actually looking at Derby? WHAT IS THE LIE. Maybe only some or one of them local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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