CBRammette Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Cant they read? IslandExile, Crewton, PistoldPete and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Isn’t that because boro need to decide on it first surely before anything goes to the EFL. More stirring on their part. uttoxram75, Crewton and Kathcairns 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 All @BoroWillhas done is confirmed that DCFC have been punished by the EFL but Gibson doesnt think its enough. His beef is against the EFL, they punished us according to their rules and are continuing to punisn us way above any crime we have committed. Loss of covid payment Fine Transfer embargo. Wage cap 21 points deduction Withholding of SKY TV money Gibson, by pursuing his present course is vindictively trying to kill our club aided and abetted by Parry. The man is a piece of work, absolute lowlife scumbag. Crewton, Foxy Ram, Ramarena and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Curtains said: I feel that people we’re putting too much credence on Boro/ Wycombe moving to sue Mel . I think Boro/ Wycombe are going to ultimately fail with these claims. They are never going to have the claims heard because the EFL will not force the issue of having them heard Crewton and Kathcairns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: Dodgy in accounting practice if industry standard is ignored. Not illegal but could be scrutinised according to accountants and auditors. And what did all auditors and accounts involved in the case say... Indy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 minute ago, uttoxram75 said: All @BoroWillhas done is confirmed that DCFC have been punished by the EFL but Gibson doesnt think its enough. His beef is against the EFL, they punished us according to their rules and are continuing to punisn us way above any crime we have committed. Loss of covid payment Fine Transfer embargo. Wage cap 21 points deduction Withholding of SKY TV money Gibson, by pursuing his present course is vindictively trying to kill our club aided and abetted by Parry. The man is a piece of work, absolute lowlife scumbag. Yep never detested a person more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, cosmic said: Keep going everyone, once we convince @BoroWill we'll have the rest of the Middlesbrough fan base on strings. How many times do we have to say.. If he's not a Bamford then what does he hope to achieve now that the club is in admin, Mel is gone, we're selling players that don't want to be sold, we have transfer bans, we had 21 points deducted? I've not counted Boro fans but I'd bet there are literally dozens of them out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 58 minutes ago, Indy said: I’m sure we must’ve discussed this at some point, but I’ve just re-read the judgement on Middlesbrough’s application to join as an affected party in our original case (covering both stadium valuation and amortisation). I remembered that their request to join as a party (and therefore be considered to be awarded compensation by the panel) had failed. What I had forgotten was that the ruling also said that they could not commence their own arbitration regarding these matters. That being the case - why can we not just point at this finding and say an independent panel has already ruled that this current action is not permissible? https://www.efl.com/contentassets/c9fc5dceaa7f4b62b81dca0b9e2f7c9d/2020.10.26---decision-on-mfc-redaction.pdf Indy, I think this is the page David has published before. I dont think 37 and 38 actually help us - the panel were only stating that Boro could not involve themselves in the arbitration claim (in effect it was only a matter for the EFL could pursue initially). On that very same page, item 30, I think the same panel say Boro are not prevented by estoppel for bringing forward a claim once that decision had been made. I am still mystified though under what EFL provisions Boro could raise a claim against Derby in the first place - David is asking Parry for that answer - and in respect to my comments above why the panel make their comment in item 30. Unless the panel decision is that Boro are not estopped making their claim via legal recourse (i.e. outside of the EFL rules). Indy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoroWill Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: absolute lowlife scumbag. For those who were asking earlier where the animosity from Boro fans towards Derby fans comes from, it's stuff like this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Indy said: I’m sure we must’ve discussed this at some point, but I’ve just re-read the judgement on Middlesbrough’s application to join as an affected party in our original case (covering both stadium valuation and amortisation). I remembered that their request to join as a party (and therefore be considered to be awarded compensation by the panel) had failed. What I had forgotten was that the ruling also said that they could not commence their own arbitration regarding these matters. That being the case - why can we not just point at this finding and say an independent panel has already ruled that this current action is not permissible? https://www.efl.com/contentassets/c9fc5dceaa7f4b62b81dca0b9e2f7c9d/2020.10.26---decision-on-mfc-redaction.pdf Superb discovery. But is there an interim judgement following the EFL winning their appeal on the amortisation charge, which overturned this decision? I can only think there may well be because even the EFL surely cannot simply ignore the finding? Which I have now come back to edit because I see that i-Ram has probably already found the answer above. Edited February 8, 2022 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Parry said that it could remove the barriers to a takeover so he has obviously read it, WTF is going on ???? IslandExile and Crewton 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 minute ago, BoroWill said: For those who were asking earlier where the animosity from Boro fans towards Derby fans comes from, it's stuff like this ? Yeah sorry about that. The board members do try to keep the moderators in check ? Kinder, ThePrisoner, uttoxram75 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooFarInToTurnRed Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Printing MM’s statement now and will be on the road in 5min, can someone call Rick Parry and let him know should make it to their Preston office just before 5pm. EFL have more clowns than Billy Smart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: Parry said that it could remove the barriers to a takeover so he has obviously read it, WTF is going on ???? Didn’t this journalist say Mike Ashley is not interested anymore a day before his PR person he is 100 per cent keen? hintonsboots, Derby4Me and Crewton 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 3 hours ago, BoroWill said: I don't think he would have any power over whether Mel can indemnify the club or not, to be perfectly honest. If the EFL said no arbitration and it had to go through the courts he would take it through the courts, I'm not sure what would suggest otherwise? Well the claim started quite a long time before Mel Morris voluntarily placed your club into administration, so I'm not sure this is quite true. Could you please return the £20 I put in your bucket all those years ago outside your old ground when you were facing liquidation as your owner has proved you were not worthy - by the way I do not blame genuine normal supporters of Middlesbrough football club but your owner has placed himself into a special kind of bracket that ultimately will make Middlesbrough suffer. Crewton, GB SPORTS and Foreveram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, BoroWill said: For those who were asking earlier where the animosity from Boro fans towards Derby fans comes from, it's stuff like this ? And in a parallel universe, with Mel Morris vindictively trying to squeeze the life out of Middlesbrough F.C despite the club having already suffered severe penalties, what would @BoroWill call Mr Morris ?An absolutely spiffing chap no doubt.? Ramarena, uttoxram75 and Crewton 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, BoroWill said: For those who were asking earlier where the animosity from Boro fans towards Derby fans comes from, it's stuff like this ? Gibsons actions cause this. If it was the other way round.......how would Boro fans feel If a rival chairman was deliberately pursuing an unfounded action that would knowingly kill your club. Any claim he has is against the EFL, I fail to see how any reasonable person could not understand this one point. The EFL have punished Derby. Gibson doesn't think its enough. Gibson should go after the EFL. Ramarena, CBRammette, Hans Datdo-Dishes and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, BoroWill said: For those who were asking earlier where the animosity from Boro fans towards Derby fans comes from, it's stuff like this ? And for those who were asking earlier where the animosity towards Boro comes from it comes from the fact he is an absolute cretin intent stopping our club recovering from the points deductions, transfer bans, player sales, people losing jobs even though Mel Morris is gone. So now we understand each other? Rev, Ramarena, Crewton and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Alpha said: How many times do we have to say.. If he's not a Bamford then what does he hope to achieve now that the club is in admin, Mel is gone, we're selling players that don't want to be sold, we have transfer bans, we had 21 points deducted? I've not counted Boro fans but I'd bet there are literally dozens of them out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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