Day Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 DenmarkRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Is this another world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Who is Tracey Crouch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Just now, AndyinLiverpool said: Who is Tracey Crouch? Peter crouch’s ugly sister. RadioactiveWaste, Van der MoodHoover and TimRam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 The sooner the EFL have independent oversight and someone to actually impose some governance on them the better. Incompetent shower of morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Matt Hancock is to be the independent regulator. kevinhectoring and RadioactiveWaste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, sage said: Matt Hancock is to be the independent regulator. Oh dear RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59406087 Sounds like it has a good chance of becoming a reality and long overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Summary.. The report makes 47 recommendations, which are summed up in 10 major points: The government should create a new independent regulator (IREF) IREF should oversee financial regulation in football IREF should establish new owners' and directors' tests A new corporate governance code should be set up Equality, diversity and inclusion plans should be mandatory for all clubs Supporters should be consulted on all key off-field decisions through a 'shadow board' Key items of club heritage should be protected by a 'golden share' for fans There should be more support from the Premier League to the pyramid through a solidarity transfer levy, paid by Premier League clubs on buying players from overseas or other top-flight clubs Women's football should be treated equally and given its own review Stakeholders should work to increase protection of welfare of players leaving the game kevinhectoring and TigerTedd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Parachute payments? Nah let's just promote women football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, sage said: Matt Hancock is to be the independent regulator. He supports Newcastle so would be great on the fit and proper tests.. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Derby crop up a couple of times in the report - basically suggests we are/were badly managed, partly due to a lack of functioning boardroom. Not as scathing as Id hoped about the efl but does say that the p&s scheme doesn't work properly and that theres a conflict of interest in its regulatory powers, the report suggests that they don't investigate enough and that the club appointed board doesn't work properly. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 9 hours ago, Philmycock said: Parachute payments? Nah let's just promote women football Shouldn't really be either or though is it? The report is disappointing in not tackling some of the problems that distort the game especially in the EFL. That's a very separate issue to proper governance of the women's game. Then I remembered the report was written by politicians, so you're right "promotion of women's football is a good thing, so mention that and not some of the stuff we're not going to change" Overall I think it's not awful and some positive things in there, but, it's not really going to fix the game either. And we need to remember this form of recommendation is going to get watered down over fancy lunches and "have a chat with us in my directors box" before anything approaching legislation is drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, alexxxxx said: Derby crop up a couple of times in the report - basically suggests we are/were badly managed, partly due to a lack of functioning boardroom. Not as scathing as Id hoped about the efl but does say that the p&s scheme doesn't work properly and that theres a conflict of interest in its regulatory powers, the report suggests that they don't investigate enough and that the club appointed board doesn't work properly. Those are the two main issues there' s a conflict of interest between their regulatory powers and kowtowing to the likes of Gibson. Plus they are regulating fundamntally an unfair system in the first place ie FFP makes no sense when the likes of Fulham (ahem) can have a wage bill of £100 million and that is all fine and dandy because Sky are paying for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, alexxxxx said: Derby crop up a couple of times in the report - basically suggests we are/were badly managed, partly due to a lack of functioning boardroom. Not as scathing as Id hoped about the efl but does say that the p&s scheme doesn't work properly and that theres a conflict of interest in its regulatory powers, the report suggests that they don't investigate enough and that the club appointed board doesn't work properly. 4 points listed in the evidence submission. with some inaccuracy Debt increasing from 2014 to 2019, 18/19 accounts showing a profit due to stadium sale and an agreement to lease back for £40m - this was actually the 17/18 accounts, submitted in April 2019, and somewhat misleading given it is/was a lease for £1.1m per year Reference to being charged for selling the stadium but nothing found wrong Reference to Gabay's dirty money helping finance the stadium purchase MSD loan of £30m and refers to us getting relegated if points applied in the 20/21 season but it was unknown what the outcome would be (it was June at the time) RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derby8 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Nothing about ownership models, eg 50+1, so new Derby investor could be 100%... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: 4 points listed in the evidence submission. with some inaccuracy Debt increasing from 2014 to 2019, 18/19 accounts showing a profit due to stadium sale and an agreement to lease back for £40m - this was actually the 17/18 accounts, submitted in April 2019, and somewhat misleading given it is/was a lease for £1.1m per year Reference to being charged for selling the stadium but nothing found wrong Reference to Gabay's dirty money helping finance the stadium purchase MSD loan of £30m and refers to us getting relegated if points applied in the 20/21 season but it was unknown what the outcome would be (it was June at the time) The fact that the debt was to Mel Morris but will be written off so not relevant to anything to do with this review. What has the financing of PPS purchase by at third party got to do with Derby leave alone anyone else? So two irrelevant points right there. And how is a dispute leading to a penalty of £100k relevant to anything? What about Leeds £200k penalty? So everything there is either irrelevant or inaccurate or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 14 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Who is Tracey Crouch? Author of the Tracey Crouch review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 16 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Who is Tracey Crouch? Andrew Neil’s niece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 19 hours ago, Yani P said: He supports Newcastle so would be great on the fit and proper tests.. was in a taxi in Nwcstl a week ago and after a few ice breakers asked the driver what he thought of the embassy killing. He said: 'accidents happen' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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