Curtains Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Some difference. Was it really necessary to do this ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just noticed that 12 and 21 is just the same numbers placed in different order. Get amusement where you can… if you don’t laugh you cry… COYR Mick Brolly, Curtains, Mucker1884 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Just noticed that 12 and 21 is just the same numbers placed in different order. Get amusement where you can… if you don’t laugh you cry… COYR Could be 4 half dozen yet In all seriousness this is a capitulation to the EFL How we have fallen Edited November 17, 2021 by Curtains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 What bargining tools did we have?...Covid-19, I thought it was a more than average chance we would win or at least a reduction. What tools did the EFL have at their disposal?...the ability to see us go out of exsistence. Will we find out what went off behind closed doors? who knows!, From what I thought was a good position, Turned out to be Hobsons choice. Where does the blame lie? The football system that we play in imo, Chase that dream and win all looks good, Chase it and lose...well, We lost. Interesting times ahead this next few months, All at DCFC will get my full support, Either at the ground or sat at home on a match day. COYRs sawley_ram, jono and Reggie Greenwood 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Just noticed that 12 and 21 is just the same numbers placed in different order. Get amusement where you can… if you don’t laugh you cry… COYR Not much gets passed you does it? ? Dean (hick) Saunders, jono and jimtastic56 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Curtains said: Some difference. Was it really necessary to do this ! Admin team Took lessons from Ridsdale on negotiations. Surprise everyone by trying to go higher than the other side was ever expecting. Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector was the best Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 At 78 next birthday, I now have no hope in seeing my beloved Rams in the Premiership. So sad but I will continue to give them my full support. Reggie Greenwood, Ramifications, Crewton and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Admin team Took lessons from Ridsdale on negotiations. Surprise everyone by trying to go higher than the other side was ever expecting. If I knew how to do it on my IPad, I’d attach the haggling scene from The Life of Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravabeerbelly Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: If I knew how to do it on my IPad, I’d attach the haggling scene from The Life of Brian Here you go sir ?? Tamworthram and mike93rh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike93rh Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 What were you expecting? There's no precedent of any team reducing their 12 points for admin, is there? The COVID argument was paper thin given we were pi**ing away money Mel's entire reign, having to sell our stadium at one point just to pass FFP. And after they shafted us with the appeal debacle we were then always going to face a points deduction, give our revised amortisation policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I has happened because the EFL put a gun to the head of the administrators and wouldn’t sort anything out in a fair way through process because they knew they would lose face in front of independent panels. jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 It's frustrating but I don't really think we had a leg to stand on. Mel used that amortisation policy to get around FFP, he sold the ground to get around FFP. Let's face it he has run the club into the ground. Tamworthram, r_wilcockson, ramit and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Rammy03 said: It's frustrating but I don't really think we had a leg to stand on. Mel used that amortisation policy to get around FFP, he sold the ground to get around FFP. Let's face it he has run the club into the ground. Brentford used data analytics to get around FFP. They sold players to get around FFP. As far as I know they are both within the rules and so is selling the stadium and amortising player values. LazloW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Brentford used data analytics to get around FFP. They sold players to get around FFP. As far as I know they are both within the rules and so is selling the stadium and amortising player values. Yes we were cleared of the charge relating to the stadium sale. I thought the charge we've been found guilty of is related to our amortisation. If we had used the policy the EFL wanted us to, we would have fallen foul of FFP. Edited November 17, 2021 by Rammy03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipley Ram Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: If we had used the policy the EFL wanted us to, we would have fallen foul of FFP. Surley we would have done things differently. Of course since they decided what policy was acceptable in retrospect we couldn't do it differently. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramley Apple Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Just noticed that 12 and 21 is just the same numbers placed in different order. Get amusement where you can… if you don’t laugh you cry… COYR Reminds me of the great Murray Walker - " 'if is F1 spelt backwards " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Fokker Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) Not sure this is fair? Reading agree SIX point Championship deduction with the EFL | Daily Mail Online Reading agree SIX point Championship deduction with the EFL | Daily Mail Online Edited November 17, 2021 by Flying Fokker jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Let it go mate. It's done. It's now time to move on. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) Raking over old coals obviously, but the greatest feat the EFL have been able to pull is seemingly punishing us for the same issue time and time again… embargoes, fines, resubmission of accounts and now FFP - all from a minor error in our approach to accounting that isn’t even clear was against to the rules, we were found not guilty of breaking the rules, we were fined for, albeit begrudgingly, and had been agreed by the EFL. Obviously, the 12 points for administration os a different catastrophic kettle of fish, but the consequences of this pretty minor breach seem to be the gift that keeps giving (for the EFL). (and forgive me if any of that is factually incorrect! I feel the need to be incoherently angry about things and am flailing around for targets!) Edited November 17, 2021 by LazloW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, LazloW said: Raking over old coals obviously, but the greatest feat the EFL have been able to pull is seemingly punishing us for the same issue time and time again… embargoes, fines, resubmission of accounts and now FFP - all from a minor error in our approach to accounting that isn’t even clear was against to the rules, we were found not guilty of breaking the rules, we were fined for, albeit begrudgingly, and had been agreed by the EFL. Obviously, the 12 points for administration os a different catastrophic kettle of fish, but the consequences of this pretty minor breach seem to be the gift that keeps giving (for the EFL). (and forgive me if any of that is factually incorrect! I feel the need to be incoherently angry about things and am flailing around for targets!) I think the only minor inaccuracy in your post is that the EFL did not object to our amortisation approach, rather than they agreed with it. I'm just panicking now that the FCA might now decide to haul me over the coals and lock me away for the issue that was investigated by the fsa in 2004 and no further action was decided upon. Clearly I was bang to rights and should be made an example of. It's a disgrace that people like me are allowed to walk the streets, frankly. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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