Bob The Badger Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Biden has consistently called on everyone to get vaccinated (well apart from during the election campaign when most deaths occurred)! Wrong yet again. Biden was calling for masks well before before the election. He was insisting that Trumps team get tested before the debates even started. Do you just guess at this stuff? Or merely make it up? Edited September 5, 2021 by Bob The Badger ariotofmyown and Comrade 86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 The reality of the vaccine is that as soon as it was approved for emergency use there was no hesitancy by the Democrats. At least none of the leaders as per the RNC clip would suggest. But there was from the GOP, especially the Trump camp, the majority of whom contracted it. Comrade 86 and ariotofmyown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 47 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said: Hope you're all ok mate! I'm off to see Jonathan Pie tonight and slightly concerned about getting it tbh. The weekend in Matlock has shown me that people have pretty much dropped their guard now. All good thanks. No symptoms for any of us. therealhantsram and Bob The Badger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said: Wrong yet again. Biden was calling for masks well before before the election. He was insisting that Trumps team get tested before the debates even started. Do you just guess at this stuff? Or merely make it up? Oh yeah, that is right, Biden didnt trust Trump but he trusted the scientists. So I can only assume that he thought it was Trump that had made the vaccine, until he was voted into office of course... As for masks, they really seem to have done the trick dont they. Edited September 5, 2021 by G STAR RAM Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 3 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Your kids don't come before my life! ? BBC: "The JCVI said children were at such a low risk from the virus that jabs would offer only a marginal benefit." - different to what you said. That's still benefit! Maybe the JCVI are wrong? Maybe another scientific body think differently. Maybe with more data - happening all the time, things will look different. Choose your favourite science, choose your favourite stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 4 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Well the JCVI concluded that the risks outweigh the benefits of vaccinating children. Maybe we just have a different outlook on life. I would take absolutely no risk with my children's lives to potentially prolong mine, guess its just the way I was brought up but my kids lives always come first. Just out of curiosity, why do you believe the JCVI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 5 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Who says it's putting the younger generation at risk? I think the 'lost the whole point of life' is fantastic hyperbole. ? There’s no proof that the younger are NOT at risk. Simply because all vaccines haven’t yet gone through the lengthy process of being tested. So whilst they’re not NOT at risk, they are at risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Just out of curiosity, why do you believe the JCVI? Well its kind of their job to advise on who should be receiving the vaccine? The other side of the argument appears to be the Government and people who most likely have a financial incentive for extending the vaccine rollout as far as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Well its kind of their job to advise on who should be receiving the vaccine? The other side of the argument appears to be the Government and people who most likely have a financial incentive for extending the vaccine rollout as far as possible. And they would never be under any pressure or any 'financial inducement' be offered to them? Who are they by the way, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: And they would never be under any pressure or any 'financial inducement' be offered to them? Who are they by the way, I don't know. They may well be but as the appointed body, I'd trust them over politicians every day of the week. https://www.gov.uk/government/groups/joint-committee-on-vaccination-and-immunisation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Mostyn6 said: There’s no proof that the younger are NOT at risk. Simply because all vaccines haven’t yet gone through the lengthy process of being tested. So whilst they’re not NOT at risk, they are at risk. Just out of curiosity, but why are you dubious about the vaccine potential risk and not dubious of the potential risk in other sectors such as construction, consumables, tech and energy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Just now, Bris Vegas said: Just out of curiosity, but why are you dubious about the vaccine potential risk and not dubious of the potential risk in other sectors such as construction, consumables, tech and energy? Who said I wasn’t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: Who said I wasn’t? Did you wait 5-10 years before entering Pride Park as you then deemed it safe? RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Well this thread just gets increasingly bizarre as time passes by. G STAR RAM, Stive Pesley, Norman and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Did you wait 5-10 years before entering Pride Park as you then deemed it safe? No point , they made it compulsory to take his children there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, Archied said: No point , they made it compulsory to take his children there Are they actually making the vaccine compulsory over there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mostyn6 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Did you wait 5-10 years before entering Pride Park as you then deemed it safe? No but I have a pretty decent professional understanding of construction engineering and understood the potential risk. However in terms of vaccinating kids, I’ve been watching/reading with interest the way American doctors are putting teens on medication with such ease, then those teens becoming total nutcases and taking guns into schools and stuff. Then the inner conspiracist in me sees who’s behind the insistence of vaccinations and their potential reasoning and then think “Wait….” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: No but I have a pretty decent professional understanding of construction engineering and understood the potential risk. However in terms of vaccinating kids, I’ve been watching/reading with interest the way American doctors are putting teens on medication with such ease, then those teens becoming total nutcases and taking guns into schools and stuff. Then the inner conspiracist in me sees who’s behind the insistence of vaccinations and their potential reasoning and then think “Wait….” Perhaps you ought to consider doing away with your inner conspiracist. I suggest Occam's razor. therealhantsram and Stive Pesley 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 16 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Oh yeah, that is right, Biden didnt trust Trump but he trusted the scientists. So I can only assume that he thought it was Trump that had made the vaccine, until he was voted into office of course... As for masks, they really seem to have done the trick dont they. Good point, I'm not at all sure why he didn't trust him. I suppose it could have been because he suggested hydroxychloroquine was a cure when it wasn't. Or maybe it was him telling people around him not to wear masks and then they all caught Covid as did a lot of non-mask wearing Republicans and very few mask wearing Democrats. Strange coincidence that. It could have even been that Trump thought injecting bleach into people was worth the scientists investigating. Clearly they are all flimsy reasons for not trusting the POTUS to do something unscrupulous just before an election, so who knows what the real reason was my well informed friend? Who really knows? therealhantsram, ariotofmyown and Comrade 86 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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