New Manager

[i-Ram]

11 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said:

Trying to correct another of Mel's managerial nightmares in recruiting the fruit loop that was Pearson who shipped out our striker...at least he recognised that we had a issue with our striker situation and attempted to resolve it.

He did resolve it. He got Nuge in, who was preferred over Martin by both Rowett and Lampard in the next couple of seasons. Cocu saw the value of Martin, and integrated him back into the squad. Got a tune of sorts out of him. Wanted him to stay when his contract expired, but the financials were not to Martin’s liking. Mel’s fault, not Cocu’s.

[Ram-Alf]

For as much as it Irks me too say...I'd go for Steve McClaren, No compensation, He knows this division, He's a very good coach, He's very familiar with DCFC...But! that contract would have to be cast iron for the benefit of DCFC where if he has his head turned again HE pays DCFC compensation from the McClaren Bank account.

[1967Ram]

13 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said:

To be fair,nuge did a job for us 

I seem to remember him missing quite a few really good chances

[derbydaz22]

1 hour ago, hughesy 1984 said:

That’s it then, start playing route 1 ?

the league is poor IMO this year. N if we brought in someone who actually had a plan ( unlike Cocu) we could get back to playing good football and bring the fun factor back. 
 

although whoever comes in will need to buy a couple of cb and a striker in January. As we are clearly lacking in these areas 

I don’t want to watch route 1 but we do need to move the ball quicker and mix it up and we need to get the basics right work rate and playing as a team not a bunch of individuals. We are also desperate for a number 9.

[1967Ram]

2 minutes ago, derbydaz22 said:

I don’t want to watch route 1 but we do need to move the ball quicker and mix it up and we need to get the basics right work rate and playing as a team not a bunch of individuals. We are also desperate for a number 9.

Totally agree. We won't find out whether Kazim-Richards could be the number 9 by bringing him on for the last ten minutes either.

[RoyMac5]

1 hour ago, hughesy 1984 said:

Although that will require a striker who can actually score goals and a solid centre back pairing. 

Still think a combo of Waghorn, Rooney, Marriott, Trialist, Duncan, Stretton et al could score enough IF we created enough chances. If we went easy on the playing out from the back we have enough choice at centre-half Clarke and a.n.other to create a pairing - got to play them together! Not like preseason!

[RoyMac5]

3 minutes ago, 1967Ram said:

Totally agree. We won't find out whether Kazim-Richards could be the number 9 by bringing him on for the last ten minutes either.

He's not. Give it to the others available - no-one will score with the way we currently play. If we created more and attacked more we would score more. #simples

[Leicester Ram]

2 hours ago, IronRam 140.6 said:

We are a British born squad (with one or two exceptions) who I guess spent their formative years playing park football with all the blood and thunder that goes with it. 

The Dutch/continental/passy passy is a fairly new concept in grass roots  coaching. Let's just go back to a slightly more blood and thunder aggressive playing style. 

To that end, its why I'm not that totally averse to Rooney being involved in that. Its literally his DNA. Cant play that way anymore but I'm sure has the presence to deliver a plan based upon it.

Knight, Sibley, Bird, Buchanan, Whittaker etc were all born by 99 at the earliest, similarly to me (97) they’ll have grown up with the Spanish national side of 08-12 and the Barcelona sides of that era being the gold standard.

I don’t think “passy, passy” style is as new or outlandish as you think it is, grass roots is different now and these lads have been in our academy for years. Nothing wrong with a continental style, any style executed effectively will work but what I do agree with is that this side needs to play with for more aggression.

Need more concerted and well channeled aggression not just when we’re pressing or defending off the ball but we need a more decisive, aggressive attacking mentality. Far too often we’ve seen this team hesitating in the final third, needs to stop.

[Archied]

17 hours ago, Millenniumram said:

I’m leaning towards a survival specialist now, because we’re in real danger. Normally I’d hate the idea of a big Sam, but I think we’ve got little choice now. We’ve left Cocu in the job a few games too long and put ourselves in a dire situation.

It’s interesting that big sam is being seen as a survival option when truth is at this level ,the players we have ,new owner and a transfer window coming up he is far more than that , he is a very very good shout at getting us in the play offs hunt if got in fast??‍♂️
his survival merchant label has been at premier level

[Archied]

17 hours ago, Topram said:

Big sam and Liam Roseinier

 

No no no no no ,, if it’s big Sam then big same and whoever he chooses to work alongside, do we never learn?

[Chester40]

30 minutes ago, James Pond said:

For as much as it Irks me too say...I'd go for Steve McClaren, No compensation, He knows this division, He's a very good coach, He's very familiar with DCFC...But! that contract would have to be cast iron for the benefit of DCFC where if he has his head turned again HE pays DCFC compensation from the McClaren Bank account.

I don't think we need to worry about someone pinching Steve.. His reputation is in tatters. 

As a short term move I wouldn't be against it, let him improve morale, steady the ship and coach the players until we get the right man in. 

If we have a massive, Big-Sam type budget he could stick around in some role, and if he does well then let him have the job for the season. His early bounce does definitely wane, so as long as we factor that in and don't give him a 4 year deal, then regrettably I would have more confidence in him getting a few results than Cocu at the moment. 

[GboroRam]

I must have dreamed something, I imagined @TexasRam shared something but...wow, what a dream! ?

[Gone]

2 minutes ago, GboroRam said:

I must have dreamed something, I imagined @TexasRam shared something but...wow, what a dream! ?

Glad it was removed, I’d been done good and proper

[Gritty]

6 minutes ago, Chester40 said:

I don't think we need to worry about someone pinching Steve.. His reputation is in tatters. 

As a short term move I wouldn't be against it, let him improve morale, steady the ship and coach the players until we get the right man in. 

If we have a massive, Big-Sam type budget he could stick around in some role, and if he does well then let him have the job for the season. His early bounce does definitely wane, so as long as we factor that in and don't give him a 4 year deal, then regrettably I would have more confidence in him getting a few results than Cocu at the moment. 

Question for me is why would he want to come back? Last time he was hear he rescued us from being in the relegation zone, was told the aim was mid table, exceeded it while playing good football again, hit a dip in form and a poor run (despite being above mid table) and so Mel sacked him.   If I was him, not sure I'd want to come back.

 

That said, I'd have him back like a shot. Brilliant coach and would work wonders with the young players

[Mickleoverram]

17 hours ago, Topram said:

Big sam and Liam Roseinier

 

Not keen on Sam Allardyce, but Liam Rosenior??????? Really??????? What has he ever achieved as a coach?????? It’s because of him and the other not good enough coaches that we are in this mess 

[EraniosSocks]

Jokanovic for me. Wants to come back to England, was massively linked with the blues job. Took a confidence struck Fulham team to the playoffs. 
 

We need a fitness coach also, who has success with Football Clubs. These next two weeks are essential to drill fitness down these players necks and get a game plan into their head. 

[Old Spalding Ram]

20 minutes ago, Archied said:

No no no no no ,, if it’s big Sam then big same and whoever he chooses to work alongside, do we never learn?

Sam Allardyce and a billionaire Arab sheik...........................what could possibly go wrong! ?

[Archied]

11 hours ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said:

Just get Mac in for heaven's sake

He won't care where we are in the table,he probably won't care that much how much he is paid.

He will just want to manage Derby once again.

He can get us out of this and get the lads enjoying their football again.

 

I really don’t know where you get this idea that people like Steve Mac or Chris Martin ( or anybody come to that ) dont / wont care about the money as long as they can manage or play for Derby county , it’s bizzaare

[Ram-Alf]

8 minutes ago, Chester40 said:

I don't think we need to worry about someone pinching Steve.. His reputation is in tatters. 

As a short term move I wouldn't be against it, let him improve morale, steady the ship and coach the players until we get the right man in. 

If we have a massive, Big-Sam type budget he could stick around in some role, and if he does well then let him have the job for the season. His early bounce does definitely wane, so as long as we factor that in and don't give him a 4 year deal, then regrettably I would have more confidence in him getting a few results than Cocu at the moment. 

1. Doubt it's in "tatters" yes he comes with baggage that's for sure, Pretty sure there's a huge ? where we the supporters are concerned.

2. If he improves morale and steadys the ship, Then getting "the right man in" could undo the work he's started.

I'm not Mystic Meg, Whoever full fills the role of Manager/Coach has expectations by all that will put huge pressure on his and others shoulders, We've been down this road for far too long that we're bocoming experts in map reading.

[Archied]

1 hour ago, nfb said:

Im not going to suggest a name, but i am going to suggest a thought process, if the new owners come in, and it looks like they will, they will almost certainly want someone with a 'known pedigree' (que dog puns) also they will probably want a few 'marquee signings'(for the EFL) which wont be until Jan...

So whoever they appoint, they will have 6/8 weeks to work with and asses the squad, which is why if they are going to sack Cocu it should be soon.

I think Mel will still be on board in some capacity, he's said he would like to remain, and therefore will offer his two penn'orth to the board on direction, and his knowledge of the situation would be a benefit to them imho. Which makes me think there wont be a return to Mac ?

I Have always been behind Cocu, but sadly not getting his desired strikers has put the final nail in his coffin i fear. Whoever comes in will inherit the same issue of 'no 20 Goal per season' strikers in this squad, and so i dont see an immediate improvement in that dept. I do feel sorry for Cocu, he's had a really rough tenure, and has earned our respect for his handling of some dire situations if nothing else.

Onwards and upwards, its going to be interesting times, whats on your Xmas wish list ?

 

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