wollatonram Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, RedSox said: Mel won't sell us unless it's right for us - as well as him. He strikes me as a very honourable man that has done so much good for the overall club and community that it would be totally out of character - unless there is something compelling him to sell regardless?..... This is always said but not sure I believe it. We are in a terrible position, a club bleeding money, he has no future here and an offer is on the table - he is going to take it whether it's the Queen or Del Boy. Money is money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wollatonram Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: Does he need to have money? Isn't he heading an investment group? Does he need to have money??? ? Come on guys, pull your heads out the sand here (no offence) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, RedSox said: Mel won't sell us unless it's right for us - as well as him. He strikes me as a very honourable man that has done so much good for the overall club and community that it would be totally out of character - unless there is something compelling him to sell regardless?..... Thousands of Derby fans baying for blood and demanding he leaves the club immediately will do it. We may just get what we deserve as a bunch of fans shortly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSox Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, wollatonram said: This is always said but not sure I believe it. We are in a terrible position, a club bleeding money, he has no future here and an offer is on the table - he is going to take it whether it's the Queen or Del Boy. Money is money But if he is still on the TImes Top 500 wealthy list, then money is important but not his primary driver. I think/hope it's more to do with being up against the FFP wall and needing to source funding / sponsors to help take us forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, RedSox said: Mel won't sell us unless it's right for us - as well as him. He strikes me as a very honourable man that has done so much good for the overall club and community that it would be totally out of character - unless there is something compelling him to sell regardless?..... I know for a fact that if I sat and read some of the things people have posted about Mel on here and on social media, I'd be tempted to sell to anyone that could pay what I want and then give a 2 fingered salute to the fans on the way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 So that’s that then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desirelines Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 With all this nonsense, would we even want this lot to take over the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wollatonram Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, RedSox said: But if he is still on the TImes Top 500 wealthy list, then money is important but not his primary driver. I think/hope it's more to do with being up against the FFP wall and needing to source funding / sponsors to help take us forward. Can you show me the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wollatonram Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Please read: https://thesefootballtimes.co/2016/04/13/notts-county-and-the-bizarre-takeover-of-2009/ https://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/feb/12/sven-goran-eriksson-notts-county-interview https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_King_(fraudster) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSox Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, wollatonram said: Can you show me the list? Here you are: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, wollatonram said: Please read: https://thesefootballtimes.co/2016/04/13/notts-county-and-the-bizarre-takeover-of-2009/ https://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/feb/12/sven-goran-eriksson-notts-county-interview https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_King_(fraudster) And the connection of any of this to the current takeover ? Non of these are involved so have no bearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Don’t think it’s necessarily an indication that Derventio are broke if they’re trying to avoid paying money for legal work on a bid that failed. Not a good look at all, clearly people need to be paid for their work regardless but it could just as likely be general stinginess as not having the 500k. Also there is no ducking doubt that this story has been purposely leaked by the law firm in an effort to build pressure on Derventio, I really doubt it was Matt Slater ringing the law firm. But this takeover is getting less and less appealing by the day. My gut says this ownership won’t be anywhere like Man City’s but hopefully not a Fawaz-type shambles. A healthy middle ground would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wollatonram Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, RedSox said: Here you are: Oh I thought you meant the Sheikh as we were talking about his wealth, my mistake. Yeah I know he has more than enough money, I just think sometimes it talks when you are talking about losing millions upon millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wollatonram Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, Leicester Ram said: Don’t think it’s necessarily an indication that Derventio are broke if they’re trying to avoid paying money for legal work on a bid that failed. Not a good look at all, clearly people need to be paid for their work regardless but it could just as likely be general stinginess as not having the 500k. Also there is no ducking doubt that this story has been purposely leaked by the law firm in an effort to build pressure on Derventio, I really doubt it was Matt Slater ringing the law firm. But this takeover is getting less and less appealing by the day. My gut says this ownership won’t be anywhere like Man City’s but hopefully not a Fawaz-type shambles. A healthy middle ground would be nice. exactly, this is the bottom line. It is not about one thing or the other, the takeover just has too many red flags to convince me this is going to be a positive move for Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wollatonram Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: And the connection of any of this to the current takeover ? Non of these are involved so have no bearing You are right, nobody is involved. my point was there is a lot of similarities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Anyone who’s had to deal with Due Diligence will know it takes flipping ages. Imagine that multiplied by foreign investors, foreign lenders, right and proper ownership, the EFL and.... bloody solicitors!!! There are projects within projects. If it hadn’t taken a long time I would have been worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, wollatonram said: Does he need to have money??? ? Come on guys, pull your heads out the sand here (no offence) Non taken. ... But my question remains unanswered. Does the lead singer in a band need to be able to play an instrument? Does a football manager need to be able to play the game? Does the owner of a bakery need to know how to make pastry? Does a pilot need to know how to fly a plane? Does a Colonel need to know how to fry chicken? Oh... erm... sorry... got carried away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rev Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, Bubbles said: Good job picking out only the negative parts, rather than the part where it says the club remain confident that the last remaining obstacles will be cleared and the takeover will proceed as planned... Steve Nicholson had already tweeted that info, didn't see the point in repeating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Worries me that Mel clearly doesn’t have a long term plan for the club under his ownership anymore (can’t blame him) but it does put us in a messy position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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