BulloRams Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 9 hours ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Have @BulloRams and Bazza ever been seen together? #ITKGods #BulloNailedIt Apparently he has posters of me on his wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 9 hours ago, Jourdan said: Marriott is out of contract in 2021. Would you renew it? Yes but ONLY for FFP reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Low risk gamble. Good pedigree even if there is a bit of a cloud following him around. What I've read paints his agent as a bit of a tool so possibly not all his fault. Could be a very good player for us in the future if all goes well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambalin Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 His agent was the same one has Saido Berahino so that explains a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GenBr Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 11 hours ago, Jourdan said: I suspect that we are signing Duncan as a long term replacement for Marriott. I doubt we can afford to renew both Waghorn and Marriott’s deals when they expire, so it would make sense to prepare for that eventuality with a young player (on cheaper wages) ready to step up and grab their chance. In the meantime, he’ll probably be playing in the under 23s and competing with Whittaker and Hector Ingram for a place on the bench. Didn't he leave both Liverpool and soon to be Fiorentina, because of a lack of first team opportunities? I don't think he will be happy playing for the U23's, but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobdeBilder Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Hope he's as good as the last guy we got from Fiorentina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, GenBr said: Didn't he leave both Liverpool and soon to be Fiorentina, because of a lack of first team opportunities? I don't think he will be happy playing for the U23's, but we'll see. Think it's been mentioned a few times that he's a young lad with a very high potential and has had quite a few agents trying to make their money out of him. I hope those days are behind him now and he has matured a bit through recent experiences. I'd also say that getting into the Derby first team at his age is more attainable than the Liverpool or Fiorentina first team. I expect him to be training with the senior squad and given his opportunity when ready. It's up to him to take that opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, GenBr said: Didn't he leave both Liverpool and soon to be Fiorentina, because of a lack of first team opportunities? I don't think he will be happy playing for the U23's, but we'll see. I am sure you’re right. But from the club’s perspective, would you give him a spot ahead of Whittaker and Hector Ingram and risk upsetting the mood in the dressing room? Has he done enough at youth level to instantly be ahead of our own prospects Whittaker and Hector Ingram? I am not too sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Jourdan said: I am sure you’re right. But from the club’s perspective, would you give him a spot ahead of Whittaker and Hector Ingram and risk upsetting the mood in the dressing room? Has he done enough at youth level to instantly be ahead of our own prospects Whittaker and Hector Ingram? I am not too sure. Doesn't even play the same position as Whittaker. And Hector-Ingram is 22, it's now or never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, GenBr said: Didn't he leave both Liverpool and soon to be Fiorentina, because of a lack of first team opportunities? I don't think he will be happy playing for the U23's, but we'll see. My take on it, based purely on internet articles I've read and baring in mind I'd not heard of the lad until last week. He was highly rated at Liverpool and was being touted as the next big thing, his agent engineered a money spinning move to Fiorentina (money spinning for whom?). Fiorentina clearly purchased him for the u19s but Duncan thought he was going to be playing first team football off the bat. My guess is that the agent was doing everything to make the move go through, even promising Duncan things that Fiorentina werent offering and clearly weren't going to happen. Duncan signed and quickly realised he wasnt playing first team football anytime soon, kicked off, quickly found out his agent had been spinning yarns and sacked his agent off. When he realised he wasnt getting into the first team at Fiorentina any time soon he probably thought what was the point being abroad in an u19s team and being forgotten about and has done all he can to get back to England to get his career back on track. I actually dont blame him if all of this has any element of truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, GenBr said: Didn't he leave both Liverpool and soon to be Fiorentina, because of a lack of first team opportunities? I don't think he will be happy playing for the U23's, but we'll see. I imagine he will get up to fitness in the u23s then move onto our bench and take it from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Srg said: Doesn't even play the same position as Whittaker. And Hector-Ingram is 22, it's now or never. Maybe not strictly speaking, but Whittaker is still a forward player. If you look at it, we have seven places on the bench. If Duncan wants to feature in the first team, those are the kind of players he is going to have to displace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olton Ram Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Isn't that a good thing though, having healthy competition between players to get onto the bench and progress into the first team? Sounds like a positive to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, Olton Ram said: Isn't that a good thing though, having healthy competition between players to get onto the bench and progress into the first team? Sounds like a positive to me. Should be, if pitched correctly by the management. It's encouraging everyone to step up and showing that is they perform and keep performing, then they keep the shirt. Just because someones brought in from outside should not mean an "automatic" start unless it can be explained to the incumbent why they are being dropped and what is expected of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EulogyForEvolution Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Should be, if pitched correctly by the management. It's encouraging everyone to step up and showing that is they perform and keep performing, then they keep the shirt. Just because someones brought in from outside should not mean an "automatic" start unless it can be explained to the incumbent why they are being dropped and what is expected of them. Exactly this. I'd be surprised if he's coming here on the promise of guaranteed starts, just that if he takes his chances he can keep hold of a shirt. I don't agree with the idea that it will upset our youngsters. If anything, the competition should spur them on. Some of them might get loan moves to help their development, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 50 minutes ago, sage said: I imagine he will get up to fitness in the u23s then move onto our bench and take it from there Bloody scousers, leave our bench alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12078661/bobby-duncan-Derby-in-talks-to-sign-former-liverpool-striker-from-fiorentina Derby want Duncan to join up initially with their U23s as he looks to re-build his career, but they hope that, with the advice and mentoring of Wayne Rooney, he could be a future star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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