ariotofmyown Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Some of the posts on here are laughable. We were so much better than last week and shouldn't have lost. We were full of attacking in the 2nd half, even though some posters think we just passed sideways in our own half. Is everyone aware that only 2 games have gone? And we've got lots of injuries? Unless you have a great season, you'll probably lose 2 games on the run a few times. I'm so scared about October too. We'll get smashed in every game against such high quality opposition. At least we have to play every team twice this time round though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 18 minutes ago, Silko said: Well other teams have said we should get better we will improve as they got relegated and if this style of play is not for the championship it certainly isn’t for league one and with what would seem like more bad injury news we are in real trouble of plummeting to the lower leagues I agree, I think everyone will be injured for 5 years and we'll be below the Conference. Bad times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavesaRam Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, minesahartington said: Is this the right room for an argument? No it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Rams Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 43 minutes ago, Topram said: Hope so Cocu just said he felt inside his knee Joz=Weeks ...Jack= months. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, thelovebelow said: On a serious note, can anyone remember the uber eat code? I'm hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavesaRam Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Some further thoughts: Firstly Jozwiack's injury. I noticed that during treatment the trainer held Jozwiack's leg with both his hands just below the knee and gave his lower limb a jerk, as if the knee was somehow dislocated. or maybe trying to pop the cartilage back in. I live in hope! Secondly, although only one or two have mentioned it, we have an endemic failure to press and harry the opposition. Our playing out from th back is always difficult because there are players snapping at our ankles all the time, and it tend to continue all over the pitch. By contrats we tend to stand off and watch the opposition play right through us. We've been doing it like this for years, and although we have employed the press ans harry, and it always works, we then ditch it and go back to passivity. It needs to change. As does Max Bird's distribution. He looks a tremendous prospect, but almost never plays a forwards pass. I know he virtually never gives the ball away. and often keeps the ball moving, the first time he played forward today and we score! HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 54 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: The way he was holding it looked more like an impact injury than a ligament. He looked like he wanted to carry on which you don’t with an ACL injury. However you are possibly wrong, hope not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I thought we played a lot better all over the pitch, we are 2 players away from winning these matches - whether returning after injuries or new, a mention for Jamal who got himself in the right places, and on another day could have had a double ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambalin Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, DRBee said: That was Jim Smith's first season.... we have had a full season of Cocu already, and how many straight losses does this loss add to?. The excuses you make for him don't really explain what is happening. As for your instruction for us to "grow up " - your just mardy and can't stand people who have a different opinion. You can have as many different opinions has you like when you have a decent one let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAT Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Can’t deny that injuries are really hurting us. Any team would miss the likes of Bielik, Waghorn, Lawrence and Holmes. When they come in it’ll make all the difference, especially in possession. However we can’t overlook how poor our defending is. The players switch off too often. Personally I don’t think the manager is at fault for this as the problem has spanned quite a few managerial appointments. I think it’s more down to recruitment and it needs sorting. I thought Byrne looked like the best player on the pitch today. If he continues like that he’ll definitely be a great addition. We just need one on the left now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 27 minutes ago, minesahartington said: Is this the right room for an argument? I’ve told you once.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, DavesaRam said: Some further thoughts: Firstly Jozwiack's injury. I noticed that during treatment the trainer held Jozwiack's leg with both his hands just below the knee and gave his lower limb a jerk, as if the knee was somehow dislocated. or maybe trying to pop the cartilage back in. I live in hope! Secondly, although only one or two have mentioned it, we have an endemic failure to press and harry the opposition. Our playing out from th back is always difficult because there are players snapping at our ankles all the time, and it tend to continue all over the pitch. By contrats we tend to stand off and watch the opposition play right through us. We've been doing it like this for years, and although we have employed the press ans harry, and it always works, we then ditch it and go back to passivity. It needs to change. As does Max Bird's distribution. He looks a tremendous prospect, but almost never plays a forwards pass. I know he virtually never gives the ball away. and often keeps the ball moving, the first time he played forward today and we score! HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That’s an ACL check. If there’s movement in the direction he’s pulling the joint then there’s a good chance of ACL damage as the ligament should prevent excessive movement in that direction. I didn’t see this, so I’m hoping they didn’t feel any movement and moved on to other checks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 27 minutes ago, Zag zig said: Was with until the last bit, we had at chance to nick a point with Rooney, we lost due to 2 defensive rooster ups, other than that for me we did play well at times and could have won. Still very early days, with a strike force that’s needs to be completed and have time to gel; with some of the injuries we’ve had, Cocu still hasn’t had any luck since joining us, one bum hand after another keeps hitting him but his signings look ok and he just needs time, something it seems a fair few don’t want to give him. If Fozzy had of put that cross in and Jack nipped in and poked it in everyone would be saying what a good goal it was and not poor defending by them. Every time we concede a goal it always has to be someone’s fault. Manure conceded a goal from a cross in tonight’s game v Palarse....multi millionaire players can’t always stop crosses and those on the end of them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I’ve got a feeling in my stomach that we have become that child in the class who tries really hard and gets a special certificate at the end of the week for doing so. The one that everyone feels a bit sorry for whilst the rest of the kids get real ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Second half was a performance with a number of positives. We looked more balanced with Rooney deeper. i believe 50% of the problems are personnel based. Look at the two new recruits who have added directness and aggression. These are the types of players Cocu wants. Not backwards and sideways crab ball merchants. We desperately need to sort out the defending through, that second goal was a farce........what on earth were Clarke and Fozzy doing rushing to the centre of the goal to hold hands and giving the Luton player the freedom to pick his spot Cocu needs to get a grip on this because the defensive shambles will ruin any positive gains he makes with the attacking side of the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYRAM Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 please people we all need to chill. I am as fustrated as all but let's look at what we are doing here. a new striker looks likely and needed. we seem to be lookin at ibe and If that don't happen I sure there are other targets. the football today was better passing forward making runs it will all come together. ITS GOING TO TAKE TIME we have a lot of young players learning their trade. yes it hurts when we lose even more so in the 87th min also Luton are no mugs not world beaters but a stable team. it will come keep the faith boys and girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ramarena said: Second half was a performance with a number of positives. We looked more balanced with Rooney deeper. i believe 50% of the problems are personnel based. Look at the two new recruits who have added directness and aggression. These are the types of players Cocu wants. Not backwards and sideways crab ball merchants. We desperately need to sort out the defending through, that second goal was a farce........what on earth were Clarke and Fozzy doing rushing to the centre of the goal to hold hands and giving the Luton player the freedom to pick his spot Cocu needs to get a grip on this because the defensive shambles will ruin any positive gains he makes with the attacking side of the team! I agree cocu hasn’t been here long and these defensive problems are quite new, he should spend a bit of time on this area. I am sorry but what the duck is he doing really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: I’ve got a feeling in my stomach that we have become that child in the class who tries really hard and gets a special certificate at the end of the week for doing so. The one that everyone feels a bit sorry for whilst the rest of the kids get real ones. I've got a stash of them at the bottom of my wardrobe.... Why did you make me say that?Oh Wardrobe.!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Spanish said: I agree cocu hasn’t been here long and these defensive problems are quite new, he should spend a bit of time on this area. I am sorry but what the duck is he doing really? I don’t have access to the training ground so couldn’t tell you. Having looked at that second goal again. I don’t think you can legislate for the complete mess Clarke makes of that (I thought Fozzy was at fault as well but I’d say it’s Clarke) he sees his left back ahead of him after tracking a player, so he goes and stands next to him in the centre of the goal leaving a gaping hole behind him.........not sure what you can do in training to change that specific defensive failure, it’s should be common sense to cover that back post/LB slot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldstar Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Ramarena said: I don’t have access to the training ground so couldn’t tell you What are you playing at? Get those binoculars and get down to the bushes. Amateur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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