Ellafella Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 34 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: I've been very excited by this signing and was delighted to see he had signed this morning...however. I really am genuinely sorry for having any negative thoughts about this, but I've just watched his interview. Compared to the Jordon Ibe we had in 2014/15, he looks like he has just returned from a 10 month 18-30s trip to Beunos Aires. Surprises me that someone who has been trying to secure a contract with a club hasnt kept himself in shape. I can kinda see why we have only given a 2 year deal. I hope and pray he really does grasp this chance with both hands, listens to everything the conditioning team ask him to do and we see him in October ready to take the championship by storm. On his day he can be the best player in the championship, let's hope we see that player. It IS a great signing and it has renewed my faith in the Club somewhat. I am very upbeat about it. I have to say though, I also thought the same as @MackworthRamIsGod. The guy seems quite "mentally tired". I really hope there is nothing underlying this presentation. He needs to get back to a football routine and get some early nights. It's great that he has a daughter to keep him grounded and I really hope the Club assigns Shane Nicholson as his mentor. Shane will help him work through any "residual issues" that he may be experiencing. We really do under-estimate the pressure that players like Jordon experience from being in the limelight at such a young age. Fingers crossed that coming back to a place that Jordon strongly associates with positive experiences will help him re-connect with football. We will see but this is the most positive Derby County signing for many a while in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Welcome back Jordon, for the first time in a while I think we’ve finally got some quality and depth in the wide areas now. That striker signing is now the key to everything. Get it right, and we should see the very best out of players like Ibe and Jozwiak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ellafella said: It IS a great signing and it has renewed my faith in the Club somewhat. I am very upbeat about it. I have to say though, I also thought the same as @MackworthRamIsGod. The guy seems quite "mentally tired". I really hope there is nothing underlying this presentation. He needs to get back to a football routine and get some early nights. It's great that he has a daughter to keep him grounded and I really hope the Club assigns Shane Nicholson as his mentor. Shane will help him work through any "residual issues" that he may be experiencing. We really do under-estimate the pressure that players like Jordon experience from being in the limelight at such a young age. Fingers crossed that coming back to a place that Jordon strongly associates with positive experiences will help him re-connect with football. We will see but this is the most positive Derby County signing for many a while in my book. The way I'm looking at this one is it's a low risk, high upside signing. We all know he has the talent it's just a case of if we can get him into the right place mentally. Fortunately as a club I think we do have the right environment for getting players back on track and I think he will be given time and patience. Just as fans I wouldn't expect too much too soon, he needs time and to be eased into things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 48 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Surprises me that someone who has been trying to secure a contract with a club hasnt kept himself in shape. Not seeing this at all. His instagram is littered with him working out, including topless if that's your thing, where you can clearly see he's in shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I think he's just become a bit of a beef cake from working on his upper body alot and has probably hardly any body fat on him. May mean he is less agile than his leaner self but as long as he is still fast that won't be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Really pleased this is done, we now have two very talented, quick, direct and young natural wingers that are Derby County players and not loanees being developed for others. Welcoming me back Jordan, looking forward to seeing you strut your stuff for us in the championship once again ?????????? COYR ?? Well done to everyone at DCFC for getting this done ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 We need to look at the whole team as work in progress (at the moment). It probably won't be until we get everyone fit and available for selection and the new signings bedding in that team that they really start to show there true potential. Patience lads patience. Good things come to those who wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsFan10 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 56 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Surprises me that someone who has been trying to secure a contract with a club hasnt kept himself in shape. I can kinda see why we have only given a 2 year deal. It is very hard to maintain peak fitness by yourself. The players at the club have a team of sports scientists and nutritionists helping them, Jordon would have just been at home. He was also never going to be match fit after being a free agent, its not like he can organise 11 v 11 friendlies in his back garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Srg said: Not seeing this at all. His instagram is littered with him working out, including topless if that's your thing, where you can clearly see he's in shape. Trust me, compared to me he is a fine figure of a man. It might be that he has just genuinely filled out a bit as he has grown, it happens. I'm still very excited by the signing and agree that this had the potential to be one of the best bits if business we have ever done. If he has a season like we know he is capable of, we will either be a premier league club next season or he could fund next seasons transfer spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Good man Welcome back Jordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Marriott Ram99 said: I think he's just become a bit of a beef cake from working on his upper body alot and has probably hardly any body fat on him. May mean he is less agile than his leaner self but as long as he is still fast that won't be a problem. We got used to seeing the skinny 18 year old from six years ago He would almost certainly filled out a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, RamsFan10 said: It is very hard to maintain peak fitness by yourself. The players at the club have a team of sports scientists and nutritionists helping them, Jordon would have just been at home. He was also never going to be match fit after being a free agent, its not like he can organise 11 v 11 friendlies in his back garden. You can be match fit without playing if you push yourself and do lots of sprints then recovery, sprint then recovery. Just need the right place to train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 His appearance and style reminds me of Traore of wolves, he's a player who can terrorise any defence. If our young Ibe has kept his pace whilst adding a bit of bulk and experience, then we will have a very exciting player to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jram Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, ram59 said: His appearance and style reminds me of Traore of wolves, he's a player who can terrorise any defence. If our young Ibe has kept his pace whilst adding a bit of bulk and experience, then we will have a very exciting player to watch. I thought this myself and, if I remember rightly, Traore only really fulfilled his potential last season at 23/24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macintosh Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 My theory for winning many games is that you have to entice mistakes, put the opposition under pressure and then pounce. A large proportion of our goals conceded come from mistakes, usually from breakaways, crosses or individual mishaps. At the other end, we seem to have to work ten times as hard to get chances, that when Chris Martin was here and playing with his back to goal there were never mistakes waiting to happen from defenders, they were never turned, ever. With playing 4-3-3 and two wingers, that usually entices mistakes, the centre forward should get more chances, opposition defences will be less settled and less likely now to just sit there and watch. Slowly, this is becoming Cocu's team. Marshall, Byrne, Te Wierek, Clarke, Rooney, Joswiak and Ibe, plus probably Bielik. That's eight of them now and possibly a striker and a couple of loans to add. He's likely very happy with the crop of youngsters available. Very soon it is going to be the team that Cocu built and with players he is confident can go out and play the way he wants. I think we are nearly there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I wasn't Ibe's biggest fan back in the day, just thought he was okay. Now I am thrilled to bits we have re-signed him. Makes me realise how spoilt for choice of good players up front we were then compared to now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdave85 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I was in the skeptical camp over this signing, but now it’s happened I can say I actually find myself genuinely pleased he’s signed, football eh? I can relate to the mental health struggles and I really hope he’s turned a corner and the club supports him as best they can. I also hope all the gammons on Twitter get blocked quick-sharp because he’s not going to hit the ground running and will need time to be match sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, mrdave85 said: I also hope all the gammons on Twitter get blocked quick-sharp because he’s not going to hit the ground running and will need time to be match sharp. At least he won't have the stadium booing him in person! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Sparkle said: One iffy game early on - so what he is more than good enough My opinion is on watching him since his return. He was a good player for us. He isn't up to speed anymore. Sorry if i offended you with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldstar Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Really pleased with this. I hope the club are giving him a mentor and sending him to regular therapy/counselling so he stays in a good place with his mental health,and i really hope when fit, he hits the ground running - for the team and his own happiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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