Ambitious Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I wouldn’t get too excited about any investment this summer. Personally, I would think it could be a tough (late) summer with everything going on and the fact we’ve got a couple of young players that could interest Premier League teams. I would imagine that one or two sales could be made, most of which could be reinvested in the team, but it’s crazy to think that we would build on what we have without seeing a couple through the door. I imagine that the outcome of the FFP judgement would also be a sticking point - no one wants to go into a season with a huge gap to make up before a ball has even been kicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 6 hours ago, duncanjwitham said: Sam Lammers hammers them in for Rams? The headlines write themselves. Ram Lammers hammers Red dogs Hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maydrakin Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 At least his song would be sorted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 11 hours ago, Millenniumram said: Can’t think for a second this link is anything but utter ********. Why would we have so many CB targets, but no goalkeeper options? Maybe we have already agreed to sign a goalkeeper? 8 hours ago, gccrowdpleaser said: Remember there is no FFP for the next 12 months at least...so new investment could be attracted by having one year to throw money at it with no ffp consequences The EFL haven’t said that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajstrawb Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 12 hours ago, Sean said: Didn't de Wijs just concede 8 goals in one game this week? Him and 10 others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Sparkle said: Maybe we have already agreed to sign a goalkeeper? The EFL haven’t said that Precisely. UEFA have decreed this for their Champions League FFP system, but nothing from the EFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 20 hours ago, Shuff264 said: During lockdown I played a save of Football Manager as PSV. (The following below if absolutely meaningless but y'know, its fun) I sold Lammers to Derby this transfer window, dont think he did very well but I'm pretty sure Derby rehired Rowett. Mauro Junior was excellent for me though, in either attacking mid or right wing. Better on the left though from what i have seen of him. He may be avaliable though with being loaned out this season at Heracles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 18 hours ago, Ambitious said: I wouldn’t get too excited about any investment this summer. Personally, I would think it could be a tough (late) summer with everything going on and the fact we’ve got a couple of young players that could interest Premier League teams. I would imagine that one or two sales could be made, most of which could be reinvested in the team, but it’s crazy to think that we would build on what we have without seeing a couple through the door. I imagine that the outcome of the FFP judgement would also be a sticking point - no one wants to go into a season with a huge gap to make up before a ball has even been kicked. I think even without the Coronavirus we'd have been mostly looking in the free or loan bins. Even more so now, as I think it'll be less likely we'll generate much income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 21 hours ago, gccrowdpleaser said: Remember there is no FFP for the next 12 months at least...so new investment could be attracted by having one year to throw money at it with no ffp consequences Complete Turkish Delight in my opinion. CIYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Let's say we sold Bogle for £10 Mill, that probably covers the fees for all 5 of them to be fair (alright maybe not Lammers, loan to perm?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 16 hours ago, Sparkle said: Maybe we have already agreed to sign a goalkeeper? The EFL haven’t said that Their rules are in line with uefa guidelines which are now relaxed as the clubs have no ticketing income and income is a fundamental of the process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4derby Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 On 17/07/2020 at 16:29, duncanjwitham said: Sam Lammers hammers them in for Rams? The headlines write themselves. Imagine playing West Ham next season - Lammers Rams hammers Hammers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 On 17/07/2020 at 16:28, inter politics said: Just a speculation piece isn't it? Same as this: https://the72.co.uk/180701/five-players-phillip-cocu-could-target-for-Derby-county-this-summer/ True, but the players all fit the profile of the positions the manager wants to fill and the type of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 15 hours ago, RamLad1884 said: Let's say we sold Bogle for £10 Mill, that probably covers the fees for all 5 of them to be fair (alright maybe not Lammers, loan to perm?) I suspect that 3 of these would be loans due to their age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 13 hours ago, gccrowdpleaser said: Their rules are in line with uefa guidelines which are now relaxed as the clubs have no ticketing income and income is a fundamental of the process Wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Wrong. "UEFA implemented FFP to protect clubs from spending more than they earn, with penalties including disqualification from European competitions, fines and transfer bans. Under normal circumstances, FFP's "break-even rule" is calculated once per year. However, UEFA will now postpone the 2020 calculation and instead have it assessed together with the financial year in 2021. A UEFA statement said the emergency measures aim at "giving clubs more time to quantify and account for unanticipated loss of revenues" and "neutralising the adverse impact of the pandemic by allowing clubs to adjust the break-even calculation for revenue shortfalls reported in 2020 and 2021, while at the same time protecting the system from potential abuses". Nevertheless, it opens up the possibility of clubs spending big in the forthcoming transfer window provided they believe they can make up any potential revenue shortfall before the next FFP calculations are made next year." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I think it may be a case of Cocu's transfer budget will be what he raises in sales and saves on net wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 42 minutes ago, gccrowdpleaser said: "UEFA implemented FFP to protect clubs from spending more than they earn, with penalties including disqualification from European competitions, fines and transfer bans. Under normal circumstances, FFP's "break-even rule" is calculated once per year. However, UEFA will now postpone the 2020 calculation and instead have it assessed together with the financial year in 2021. A UEFA statement said the emergency measures aim at "giving clubs more time to quantify and account for unanticipated loss of revenues" and "neutralising the adverse impact of the pandemic by allowing clubs to adjust the break-even calculation for revenue shortfalls reported in 2020 and 2021, while at the same time protecting the system from potential abuses". Nevertheless, it opens up the possibility of clubs spending big in the forthcoming transfer window provided they believe they can make up any potential revenue shortfall before the next FFP calculations are made next year." UEFA’s FFP doesn’t apply to us as we aren’t in a UEFA competition. We stick to the EFL’s P&S (FFP) rules. The EFL have not issued any statement saying there will be any change due to Covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 42 minutes ago, gccrowdpleaser said: "UEFA implemented FFP to protect clubs from spending more than they earn, with penalties including disqualification from European competitions, fines and transfer bans. Under normal circumstances, FFP's "break-even rule" is calculated once per year. However, UEFA will now postpone the 2020 calculation and instead have it assessed together with the financial year in 2021. A UEFA statement said the emergency measures aim at "giving clubs more time to quantify and account for unanticipated loss of revenues" and "neutralising the adverse impact of the pandemic by allowing clubs to adjust the break-even calculation for revenue shortfalls reported in 2020 and 2021, while at the same time protecting the system from potential abuses". Nevertheless, it opens up the possibility of clubs spending big in the forthcoming transfer window provided they believe they can make up any potential revenue shortfall before the next FFP calculations are made next year." UEFA's rules only apply to English clubs competing in Europe do they not? I don't think they are going to have much impact on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 35 minutes ago, sage said: I think it may be a case of Cocu's transfer budget will be what he raises in sales and saves on net wages. I think that's fair enough. As Mel put it, when you don't have much money you're less inclined to waste it, and focus on VFM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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