G STAR RAM Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: Max low And bbc as well yes give rammage a warning but does not desevse to be sack. I thought Max Lowes response was quite dignified. Its others filling their boots that have magnified the situation. Agree that RD we wrong to sack him without giving him chance to explain his comments (that is assuming he wasnt given chance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram8 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 No mention WHATSOEVER on Radio Derby for ‘pulling’ Sportscene.. Disgusting public relations for an otherwise (formerly) respected Radio Station ! So what do we get instead, tedious, vacuous ‘pop’ music, shows no respect for their loyal sports fan audience whatsoever .. Add this to their promotion of weather presenter Sally Pepper to morning ‘anchor’ presenter, with her condescending conversations with the ‘older generation’ and annoyingly offensive cackling laugh, and I for one have now paid my last visit to their ‘toy town’ radio station ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, Ram8 said: No mention WHATSOEVER on Radio Derby for ‘pulling’ Sportscene.. Disgusting public relations for an otherwise respected Radio Station ! What should they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Yes I was looking forward to listening to it but I guess too sensitive and raw to discuss so let's pull it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclej Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Curtains said: What should they say. They are frightened to death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, utisbug said: No mate. I can't agree with the sentiment of not "persecuting someone on the evidence". I'll stick to calling a spade a spade. He made a racist comment. To think the way he does, to make that kind of statement makes him racist. Anybody defending him is wrong. End of. So, what you and many others are saying is sometimes people make racist comments but they aren't racist. Let's let him off, he's not really racist. So who are the racists? How do we spot them? Nobody here personally knows Ramage but enough feel they can vouch for him not being racist? So, is it just folk we've never heard or seen before that are the real racists? I mean folk that sound nice and used to play for Derby aren't really racists, they just make mistakes, right? How thick are people to not understand the precedent you set when allowing language like that? Crazy. Ooh. Is this still an allowable phrase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 30 minutes ago, jagerbob said: ... If our defenders were sacked every time they made one error in 90s mins, we wouldnt have many defenders left. You've accidentally put an "m" in front of "any"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Curtains said: What should they say. Stop being a Bamford. Of course they should explain why they're not showing my favourite radio show, I pay my TV license ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 8 hours ago, Tamworthram said: The BBC has acted in the only way it could or should Not sure about that ,editing the audio was bang out of order they should have just taken it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, IlsonDerby said: I have to say no... judging people for reading a newspaper that’s done the stuff the sun has done after knowing that they’ve done that stuff is quite telling. Don’t get me wrong nowt against the back pages but their front pages are absolute sewage. Racial stereotypes are not actually based on anything other than ignorance. The other part? I know Asian friends that have been held at gunpoint by armed police on their way homes from a night out. I know that black people are much more likely to be stopped by the police in a car than someone who looks like me. Would love to answer this but don't think its the right thread as would be going off on a tangent. Pay a visit to the Politics Thread sometime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Curtains said: What should they say. Due to an ongoing inquiry tonight’s SportsScene has been postponed and will hopefully return next Monday. Try the vegan sausage rolls at Greggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Remy the hare said: Rd have took the moan in off. Have coles and Dawes been sacked? Did Ramage actually get the sack which has been misquoted on here. He would have to be an employee of the BBC to get sacked was he even that - or rather the arrangement was that Ramage was self employed and working as a subcontractor for the BBC Note the use of words yesterday in the statement from the BBC which didn't mention sacking but rather we will no longer be working with Craig which implies he was never a direct employee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Pearl Ram said: Due to an ongoing inquiry tonight’s SportsScene has been postponed and will hopefully return next Monday. Try the vegan sausage rolls at Greggs. Oh you want it back on then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, Curtains said: Oh you want it back on then Have never listened to it, I live in Hertfordshire you know although I suppose it would be available on BBC Sounds or whatever. The point is, you asked what they should say, I replied explaining they should acknowledge their regular listeners explaining why they wouldn’t be getting their usual content tonight. The least they could do don’t you think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I'm glad the moderators are getting rid of some of the worst reactions to this on here. Can't believe some people would post such stupid rubbish online. Unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raich Carter Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Long thread and I think I’ve read most of it but, and I’m not witch-hunting here, aren’t the presenting and production crew at least partially culpable as CR in that they didn’t mention it on air after it was said? If you listen to quality presenters such as Simon Mayo, if something is said that’s out of line on his shows he’s on it immediately- apologising and admonishing as necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, Pearl Ram said: Have never listened to it, I live in Hertfordshire you know although I suppose it would be available on BBC Sounds or whatever. The point is, you asked what they should say, I replied explaining they should acknowledge their regular listeners explaining why they wouldn’t be getting their usual content tonight. The least they could do don’t you think ? Maybe they Will cancel it altogether I don’t know. . Maybe they haven’t decided yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Did Ramage actually get the sack which has been misquoted on here. He would have to be an employee of the BBC to get sacked was he even that - or rather the arrangement was that Ramage was self employed and working as a subcontractor for the BBC Note the use of words yesterday in the statement from the BBC which didn't mention sacking but rather we will no longer be working with Craig which implies he was never a direct employee. I'd say you are on the right lines. One report I read mentioned he worked for them "As a freelance". With the wording of the Beeb's statement, I'd say that technically, there is, nor has been, any "sacking" to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ram8 said: Add this to their promotion of weather presenter Sally Pepper to morning ‘anchor’ presenter, with her condescending conversations with the ‘older generation’ and annoyingly offensive cackling laugh, and I for one have now paid my last visit to their ‘toy town’ radio station ! And to top it all off, she's dating Ed Dawes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaftesbury st Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I think it’s important to put some perspective on this. I am a black man in my 40’s growing up in the 70’s suffering horrendous, unimaginable racist abuse, not only from people in my majorly white British community but also from parents and school teachers. Whilst what he has said cannot be condoned, it’s a racist comment by definition of the very words he chooses to use. If he says the two full backs or just the young lads etc then it’s just a comment that everyone can debate and either agree or disagree. Is he a racist ?, no not for a minute do I believe that at all, I have lived through racism, it’s defined me as a person through no fault of my own. I never asked to be abused, never asked to be singled out when walking into a room where only I looked different from anybody else. He’s made a mistake, he has received his punishment for what is a lack of judgement and poor use of words. Racists hate, they cannot praise, they cannot admire and most importantly they cannot hide it, if he was this way we would have seen this way before now. When John Terry behaved the way he did with Anton Ferdinand lots of people who knew him all said football knows what Terry is, this will not happen here because Ramage isn’t that person. Because of my colour my opinion matters no more than anyone else’s no matter what colour you are but please let’s not crucify the man for just poor use of words. All Derby aren’t we ! COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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