bigbadbob Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 hours ago, RamNut said: Maybe. If it was over 7 hours. Or 3.5 pints and a large glass of wine with the meal. If I was sat with that person all of the time I might notice. On the other hand if i was chatting up someone on the other side of the room I might not have a clue. Either way, he's been sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 36 minutes ago, RamNut said: Yes I totally agree. For me that is the stupid part I do wonder what made them attempt to drive was it stupidity or arrogance. why didn’t they call a cab ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 On 31/10/2019 at 09:58, Rample said: It looks purely a business decision. Lawrence and Bennett fit to play and with resale value kept, Keogh who will be out for over a year and nearing retirement/too old for this level of football when he returns let go. One rule for one and one for another, and maybe a little bit harsh on Keogh, but definitely in the interest of the club. Be interesting to see where player power stands now. Not saying Keogh was divisive (amongst the players) but he did always seem to be mentioned in the group of players that went to Mel to complain etc. Anyway, best of luck with your recovery Rich, thanks for the effort and for actually caring over the past few years. It can't be that easy to walk the tightrope between being captain of a team and finding yourself accused of 'Player Power Politics' Are you one of the lads or a management spy? "Responsibility without authority is hell." Richard has a proven track record over the years....true! He can no longer fulfil the terms of his contract......true! He seems to have turned down an offer amounting to massively more than I, and one or two others perhaps, could even dream of were we to be injured at work. (Regardless of any issue of due care and diligence). Has he been sacked? Is he a scapegoat for the whole episode? I understand that he has not been charged with any offence and did not even get a notice of intended prosecution. Both he and the Club will be walking a legal tightrope and, yes I wish him well but, He will not be helped by any of us sitting as barrack room lawyers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Brummie Steve said: Both he and the Club will be walking a legal tightrope and, yes I wish him well but, He will not be helped by any of us sitting as barrack room lawyers! And neither will he be harmed by us barrack room lawyers on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smyth_18 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I've treated this whole situation as a bit of a joke but something just hit me which really, really annoyed me. Derby County (Including Richard Keogh) keep using poor Audrina for all their PR campaigns which on the surface looks fantastic. Richard Keogh feels he deserves to continue earning 29k a week for a self inflicted injury. I know it seems a bit of a 'gammon' thing to say, but he (and many others in the team) could pay the 200k for her treatment today. Why does this never happen? Fair enough if there is a legitimate reason, i just can't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, Smyth_18 said: I've treated this whole situation as a bit of a joke but something just hit me which really, really annoyed me. Derby County (Including Richard Keogh) keep using poor Audrina for all their PR campaigns which on the surface looks fantastic. Richard Keogh feels he deserves to continue earning 29k a week for a self inflicted injury. I know it seems a bit of a 'gammon' thing to say, but he (and many others in the team) could pay the 200k for her treatment today. Why does this never happen? Fair enough if there is a legitimate reason, i just can't see it. Someone could've literally took the money out of Frank Lampard's wallet and he'd never have noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, Smyth_18 said: I've treated this whole situation as a bit of a joke but something just hit me which really, really annoyed me. Derby County (Including Richard Keogh) keep using poor Audrina for all their PR campaigns which on the surface looks fantastic. Richard Keogh feels he deserves to continue earning 29k a week for a self inflicted injury. I know it seems a bit of a 'gammon' thing to say, but he (and many others in the team) could pay the 200k for her treatment today. Why does this never happen? Fair enough if there is a legitimate reason, i just can't see it. Could have put the fines to good use. Then again, that may well have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, Smyth_18 said: I've treated this whole situation as a bit of a joke but something just hit me which really, really annoyed me. Derby County (Including Richard Keogh) keep using poor Audrina for all their PR campaigns which on the surface looks fantastic. Richard Keogh feels he deserves to continue earning 29k a week for a self inflicted injury. I know it seems a bit of a 'gammon' thing to say, but he (and many others in the team) could pay the 200k for her treatment today. Why does this never happen? Fair enough if there is a legitimate reason, i just can't see it. I always thought this about the rich...but then I guess when does it stop? If Derby were to pay for it then I’m sure there would be other people in the same situation that come forward and ask for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 24 minutes ago, Smyth_18 said: Fair enough if there is a legitimate reason, i just can't see it. All I can say is, if the wealthy as individuals were to donate money for every good cause that warrants it, they would quickly be not wealthy. That's why I support a fully funded NHS which makes sure that the cost of treating all good causes is shared equally and fairly. But that's a conversation for the politics thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldstar Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Smyth_18 said: Richard Keogh feels he deserves to continue earning 29k a week for a self inflicted injury. I know it seems a bit of a 'gammon' thing to say, but he (and many others in the team) could pay the 200k for her treatment today. Why does this never happen? Fair enough if there is a legitimate reason, i just can't see it. You're bang on here. There will always be people who rush to their defence and say "how much have YOU given?'. I actually do donate when possible, there's a poor man at the minute in desperate need of help who I have donated to but £40 here and there is the same as them giving a few grand. If they all did that then her treatment would be paid for. How many Range Rovers and designer clothes do you need? And fair enough if they don't want to help, but making out they really care then asking us peasants to pay more than them rubs me the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, goldstar said: You're bang on here. There will always be people who rush to their defence and say "how much have YOU given?'. I actually do donate when possible, there's a poor man at the minute in desperate need of help who I have donated to but £40 here and there is the same as them giving a few grand. If they all did that then her treatment would be paid for. How many Range Rovers and designer clothes do you need? And fair enough if they don't want to help, but making out they really care then asking us peasants to pay more than them rubs me the wrong way. They should dona donation match thing. If you fans donate £5,000, us players will donate £5,000 too. I wonder how the combined wages of an average price park attendance balance out against the combined wages of the squad. That would be an interesting one to work out. I’m waiting at a bus stop, so I got bored and worked it out. Average pride park attendance: 29,000 Average wage: £29,000 (coincidentally) total: £841,000 per year average championship wage bill: £34m a year. Makes your eyes water that does. Keogh’s wage alone are probably more than every person in that stadium. so, in conclusion, if everyone in the stadium donates a fiver, every player, theoretically, should be able to match that combined donation and barely notice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, TigerTedd said: They should dona donation match thing. If you fans donate £5,000, us players will donate £5,000 too. I wonder how the combined wages of an average price park attendance balance out against the combined wages of the squad. That would be an interesting one to work out. I’m waiting at a bus stop, so I got bored and worked it out. Average pride park attendance: 29,000 Average wage: £29,000 (coincidentally) total: £841,000 per year average championship wage bill: £34m a year. Makes your eyes water that does. Keogh’s wage alone are probably more than every person in that stadium. so, in conclusion, if everyone in the stadium donates a fiver, every player, theoretically, should be able to match that combined donation and barely notice it. Diane, do you want to borrow my calculator? 40,000 fans had tickets for Wembley. Just £5 off each attendee would have been enough to cover the treatment. Currently only £62000 off the target... add £2.30 to the ticket price for our next home game and that target will be met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 40 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Diane, do you want to borrow my calculator? 40,000 fans had tickets for Wembley. Just £5 off each attendee would have been enough to cover the treatment. Currently only £62000 off the target... add £2.30 to the ticket price for our next home game and that target will be met. Doh, missed a few zeros. The bus came, so I rushed. £841,000,000 fair dos, the combined income of everyone at pride park is quite a lot. We could buy and sell those players. People power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: Currently only £62000 off the target... add £2.30 to the ticket price for our next home game and that target will be met. Whilst nowhere near correct (as over 20k have already paid for our tickets), you do make an otherwise fair point. It does make you wonder sometimes just how difficult it is for these charity targets to be met, when so many of us could easily and comfortably help, with something as simple as "a couple of quid each". I'm all for donating the odd score to any charity that is close to my heart, or even the odd one that simply pulls at the heartstrings every now and again, but I guess we all have to pick and choose which pots to throw our loose change in. Disappointed to read that there's still such a long way to go for Audrina's target to be met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I'm sure this thread keeps going round in circles lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCG Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 God, is this topic still going ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Derby County have withdrawn their 2020 calendar due to Keogh's sacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I wasn't going to post in this thread again but I just wanted to let you know that Audrina can't have the treatment they were hoping for due to an adverse reaction. I think the family are now looking into other options. There's more news on her fundraising website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, angieram said: I wasn't going to post in this thread again but I just wanted to let you know that Audrina can't have the treatment they were hoping for due to an adverse reaction. I think the family are now looking into other options. There's more news on her fundraising website. Bloody hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, angieram said: I wasn't going to post in this thread again but I just wanted to let you know that Audrina can't have the treatment they were hoping for due to an adverse reaction. I think the family are now looking into other options. There's more news on her fundraising website. She's in good spirits. See her birthday wishes to Duane Holmes below and the link is there to her fundraising page for the rest of her news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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