dcfc4ever Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, AdamRam said: The JP interview is an interesting development, a lot of people were very quick to assume it was RK or his agent who leaked the pay cut story. I still believe it looks better on the club that they offered RK a pay cut and therefore they would have more to gain for this to come out in the public domain, however for me as the actual details of this deal, or if indeed there was one, are unknown, then it’s an unfair stick to beat him with. Is that the same stick you been beating Derby County with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/morris-keogh-drink-drive-Derby-3511068 Mel Morris explains his decision to sack Keogh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, richinspain said: https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/morris-keogh-drink-drive-Derby-3511068 Mel Morris explains his decision to sack Keogh. Awful, poorly written without a proper ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, richinspain said: https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/morris-keogh-drink-drive-Derby-3511068 Mel Morris explains his decision to sack Keogh. It explains absolutely nothing and, if anything, only confuses me more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: It explains absolutely nothing and, if anything, only confuses me more. Don't think it's really to do with Keogh bar maybe the difficult choice. Thought it related to the two playable assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: It explains absolutely nothing and, if anything, only confuses me more. DET are poo. You'll notice the question from the audience is not quoted. That's probably important. Mel's reply is explaining why he doesn't feel as though sacking Tom Lawrence or Mason Bennett would be an effective punishment. He makes no comparison to Keogh; or even mention him. In my mind at least, this suggests that the question was not "Why was Keogh sacked and not Lawrence or Bennett?"; but more along the lines of, "Why were Lawrence and Bennett not punished more severely?" - which Mel's quotes in that article explain somewhat well (in that he didn't feel Sacking them would be punishment at all and they've done the limit of what they can within the players contracts), although quoting an ad lib without the exact context of the question has left things a little confusing, I'll admit. Framing it as "explains decision to sack Keogh" is absolutely ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRam Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 48 minutes ago, dcfc4ever said: Is that the same stick you been beating Derby County with? No mines bigger. You do have a good point though ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 3 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: The club have given almost no direct quotes about Keogh, understandably. But how do you know what Cocu said to him, I know journalists make it up, but in this case? I mean, for him to report you have to presume that piece of information is now being allowed out by someone within the club. Probably not Cocu, but the club fit sure. As @cheron85 says, my point was by suggesting the text is ‘from Cocu’s interview with John Percy’, it can imply it was a direct quote by Cocu, which at the moment would be wrong to say. I knew that wasn’t what you were implying, it’s just sometimes people can take things the wrong way and thought it was best to make it clear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Why was someone in the Yard poking MM in the chest. It’s not his fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Curtains said: Why was someone in the Yard poking MM in the chest. It’s not his fault Someone drunk! Thought that was highly amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 30 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: It explains absolutely nothing and, if anything, only confuses me more. "...and you said that automatically you are always going to fire them, the financial implications are a nightmare" This is all you need to know. The difference in 'punishment' is purely down to money, not ethics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Someone drunk! Thought that was highly amusing. That really isn’t amusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, cosmic said: "...and you said that automatically you are always going to fire them, the financial implications are a nightmare" This is all you need to know. The difference in 'punishment' is purely down to money, not ethics. No, who gets punished if they're sacked and then go and get a big new deal at another club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, Curtains said: That really isn’t amusing Irony init. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRam Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: No, who gets punished if they're sacked and then go and get a big new deal at another club? The only precedent I can think off is Mutu, played for Chelsea and got sacked I believe for testing positive for drugs. Think Chelsea took him to court as he signed for another club and win damages. I haven’t googled it so could be wrong on the final outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Lawrence wouldn’t be without a club long as he’s a top player. Bennett the same . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TramRam Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, AdamRam said: The only precedent I can think off is Mutu, played for Chelsea and got sacked I believe for testing positive for drugs. Think Chelsea took him to court as he signed for another club and win damages. I haven’t googled it so could be wrong on the final outcome. This what google came up with. "In one of the most Kafkaesque stories in the world of soccer, Adrian Mutu has been ordered to pay over €17 million to Chelsea after the failure of his most recent appeal in the European Court for Human Rights"....27 Feb 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spanish Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ramarena said: that from the Simpsons in Paris? if so why are they going the wrong way around the roundabout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Spanish said: that from the Simpsons in Paris? if so why are they going the wrong way around the roundabout? If I remember my Simpson’s correctly I think it’s a scene from the time they visit London for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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