RamNut Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, Ewe Ram said: A bit like this thread in fact. Can you believe there’s people arguing their point which is a supposition with another person who’s convinced their supposition is fact? Yet they all admit they do not know the facts of what they’re arguing about. ? Who is supposedly convinced that supposition is fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Will this thread still be going strong when keogh makes his Burton debut?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAccessMemory Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ewe Ram said: A bit like this thread in fact. Can you believe there’s people arguing their point which is a supposition with another person who’s convinced their supposition is fact? Yet they all admit they do not know the facts of what they’re arguing about. ? I don't agree with talking about speculation that hasn't at least been reported on by the newspapers, I don't see how it's helpful to put information out there that is likely false but is it really supposition if you quote from the court case, Derbyshire Police, East Midlands Ambulance Service and a 'police source' - I know some people feel you can't trust the papers with much but surely they have to have reported these quotes properly? Personally, I initially wondered about how and when Keogh got treatment for his knee injury and whether somehow that had been the catalyst for the sacking and that quote from the Sky article this morning made me go and look up all of the quotes as I didn't think it fit with what I'd read before so I thought I would mention it. I'm happy to leave it at that now as without any more new information we do seem to be going around in circles and it may not even be relevant to the sacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 As far as I can see there is only one man that can unravel this mystery: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, RamNut said: Eh? His gross misconduct is (supposedly, mostly) about being injured and not able to fulfil his contract. All this did he know, didn't he doesn't matter a damn. Edit: confused myself with babble! Lol. Will be interesting when/if we ever find out where Keogh disappeared to when the paramedics arrived! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, RamNut said: Bennett threw up. Keogh wasn’t in bennett’s Car So it didn’t affect his breath test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 9 hours ago, RandomAccessMemory said: For them it wasn't just a 1 hour lunch though, so it's difficult to compare that to them. We know that the club provided transport was for 8pm, we know the crash happened just before midnight but that their breathalyser readings wouldn't have been until around 12.30-1am (left the scene for around 45 minutes?). I think it's reasonable to assume that they had been there for at least an hour before the transport was booked, possibly more like 2 or 3 (the club will know), so that's what, something like 6 hours to possibly 7 or 8 from the time they arrived to the time they were breath tested. Not sure we can glean too much about how much they drank over that time from their breathalyser results. ?♀️ Ok....now i’m back home.... I put 7 hours into the calculation number cruncher and the answer - to achieve the breathalyser reading of 58 - was five pints. So it hasn’t made much difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Spanish said: So it didn’t affect his breath test? I’m not trying to calculate Bennett, as that isn’t who keogh accepted a lift from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, RamNut said: Ok....now i’m back home.... I put 7 hours into the calculation number cruncher and the answer - to achieve the breathalyser reading of 58 - was five pints. So it hasn’t made much difference. 5 pints? Sorry if you watch someone drink that much (and they weren't breathalysed until at least an hour after they stopped drinking) and think they're okay to drive then you've only yourself to blame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: 5 pints? Sorry if you watch someone drink that much (and they weren't breathalysed until at least an hour after they stopped drinking) and think they're okay to drive then you've only yourself to blame! Maybe. If it was over 7 hours. Or 3.5 pints and a large glass of wine with the meal. If I was sat with that person all of the time I might notice. On the other hand if i was chatting up someone on the other side of the room I might not have a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 minute ago, RamNut said: Maybe. If it was over 7 hours. Or 3.5 pints and a large glass of wine with the meal. If I was sat with that person all of the time I might notice. On the other hand if i was chatting up someone on the other side of the room I might not have a clue. Except you've been in the pub with them all this time - seriously you wouldn't wonder how much they'd drunk?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 35 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Except you've been in the pub with them all this time - seriously you wouldn't wonder how much they'd drunk?! Yes...but what if they had had 4 pints? the answer is that they would be legal to drive ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, RamNut said: Yes...but what if they had had 4 pints? the answer is that they would be legal to drive ? You'd take that risk? You have no real idea but that you've been in a pub for lots of hours?!!! And Keogh would still be injured cos he didn't belt up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: You'd take that risk? You have no real idea but that you've been in a pub for lots of hours?!!! And Keogh would still be injured cos he didn't belt up! Not matter how much we crunch the numbers, the calcs suggest he was one drink over the limit. A mistake to accept a lift but not a huge error of judgement. (P.s. I’ve done much worse, but I wouldn’t use me as a guide) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, RamNut said: Maybe. If it was over 7 hours. Or 3.5 pints and a large glass of wine with the meal. If I was sat with that person all of the time I might notice. On the other hand if i was chatting up someone on the other side of the room I might not have a clue. WHOAAAAA... What are you incinerating! Charlie is gonna be livid when she finds out about this! He'll need more than crutches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: WHOAAAAA... What are you incinerating! Very apt since it is bonfire night after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, RamNut said: Not matter how much we crunch the numbers, the calcs suggest he was one drink over the limit. A mistake to accept a lift but not a huge error of judgement. (P.s. I’ve done much worse, but I wouldn’t use me as a guide) Apologies for being a dick earlier, once I'm in argument mode a weird sort of righteousness takes hold. I think that you've said there is quite important, you can't use us mere mortals as a guide and yes we've all taken irresponsible risks, but we aren't sportsmen for who our entire job is based on our physical well-being, so we can't really be judged in the same way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Why take any risks when there’s these things called Taxi’s just a phone call away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 24 minutes ago, Elwood P Dowd said: Why take any risks when there’s these things called Taxi’s just a phone call away. Yes I totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 53 minutes ago, Coconut said: Apologies for being a dick earlier, once I'm in argument mode a weird sort of righteousness takes hold. Apology accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.