Steve How Hard? Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 51 minutes ago, LazloW said: Did the linesman flag for a free kick? I know they are all in radio communication with each other, but surely the linesman has a responsibility to the crowd to make it clear that he thought it was a free kick. If he didn't flag, then frankly whether it was definitely a penalty or not, I can't see why the ref would have, or should have, changed his mind. Any benefit of the doubt surely must go to the team benefitting from the original decision? Doubt VAR would have overturned it. Shame. That's a very good point. Surely its logical for the ref to glance across to his linesman before awarding the penalty. This tells him that (a) an infringement has occurred or (b) something to the contrary has occurred. As someone else has pointed out, would he make the same decision the other way around at Elland Road? Not a chance, he wouldn't get out of the ground alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Doesn't matter now ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Not for me. As much as I wish it was, I have watched it several times and still come up with a no. At the end of the day it doesnt make a difference now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 44 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Not a pen for me, but once it’s been given it’s not clear and obvious enough to overturn it. I knew straight away he would tho, cause Craig pawson is a bottlejob, didn’t even bother celebrating that we’d got it. It's weird. I did exactly the same . I knew he would change his mind as soon as he got roughed up a bit by the Leeds players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 It was a Pen and we all hate Leeds..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Live, it looked like a penalty. On tv it doesn't Perhaps we need the unexpected fans video from another angle to prove it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleEatonRam Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 3 hours ago, CHCDerby said: It's a clear penalty and yes I would say that if it was at the other end. There's no arm around Harrison from Bogle and he clearly takes Bogles leg. How can you say it's not a penalty? Of course you would mate, sure. It doesn't make you less of a fan to just take the bias off for a moment and see it for what it is. You're still a Derby fan if you think it's not a penalty, don't worry. He doesn't clearly take Bogle's leg at all. If what happened is enough to give as a penalty then there would be 10 per match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleEatonRam Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Gritters said: Do you think it was a free kick to Leeds? Nope. But that's not what the question is and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorty389 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 If you focus on the arm grab then no it's not...its also not enough to pull the Leeds twit over (diving in the oppo penalty area?!) BUT look at the feet and the Leeds player does hook him and cause him to fall so yes it should have stood and not been overturned because of a "foul" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Looked a stonewall penalty in real time and having now watched it over and over its still a stonewall penalty. Would have no complaints if it had been the other way round, the defender took his leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, LittleEatonRam said: Nope. But that's not what the question is and you know it. I can only conclude that the reason the ref changed his mind was because the AR saw Bogle foul Harrison. So it is linked in with the whole incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Never a penalty...and everyone on here would have been screaming “cheating Leeds” if that had been down the other end and they got a penalty the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 He gave leeds a fee kick to justify not giving a penalty which was silly - if the VAR was in use which we had in FA cup games this season it would not have been overturned ultimately he gave it then took it off us based on very flimsy information which the linesman was not flagging for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 It should have stood. The defender clearly catches the back of Bogles leg before the ball and the ref got it right first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, LittleEatonRam said: Of course you would mate, sure. It doesn't make you less of a fan to just take the bias off for a moment and see it for what it is. You're still a Derby fan if you think it's not a penalty, don't worry. He doesn't clearly take Bogle's leg at all. If what happened is enough to give as a penalty then there would be 10 per match. I thought it was a penalty, he clearly takes bogles leg. In my opinion of course. Being biased, yes i probably would be trying to convince myself that the defender got the ball first if it was the other way round, wasnt the case though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 The linesman didn't flag. There can't have been any certainty in what he said to the ref. Not an obvious mistake and certainly in no way a foul by Bogle. Would the ref have consulted had Leeds not surrounded him? I don't believe so. The two big decisions in the game the ref got wrong, which is a shame as I thought he was actually good up until that point. But when the game heated up he crumbled. Penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukedcfc Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 50/50, the resulting penalty would of papered over the cracks. Leeds did another job on us, i watched it again and i regret it. Lampard needs to reavaluate how to counter bielsa, 3 times now and the same outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, lukedcfc said: 50/50, the resulting penalty would of papered over the cracks. Leeds did another job on us, i watched it again and i regret it. Lampard needs to reavaluate how to counter bielsa, 3 times now and the same outcome. I don't care if it papered over a crack the size of the grand canyon, poor refereeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Steve How Hard? said: That's a very good point. Surely its logical for the ref to glance across to his linesman before awarding the penalty. This tells him that (a) an infringement has occurred or (b) something to the contrary has occurred. As someone else has pointed out, would he make the same decision the other way around at Elland Road? Not a chance, he wouldn't get out of the ground alive. someone!!!!!!......... @Inverurie Ram pointed it out on the Leeds match thread...... @Steve How Hard? is going to have to try harder on here, I know it's Sunday and we are all miffed, and are now going to suffer cheering on Wolves & Brighton and maybe we are not sure how we are going to get through the next 3 days........but come on......someone!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydaz22 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Paul71 said: Hard to know 100%, looked like it was the Leeds players that swung the decision, but I am sure the officials would say otherwise. I didn’t see the linesman flag but as soon as the Leeds players surrounded the ref and the keeper ran over he then got involved,pretty weak the officials all game to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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