1of4 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 37 minutes ago, bcnram said: Wouldn’t that be fantastic. However, it won’t be achieved by dragging the better privately financed schools down. To match what the private schools provide, the school working day will have to increase, parents will have to take an interest and discipline will have to be a major part. Can’t see that happening somehow, but hope it does. If the working week is reduced to 32 hours Then the number of teachers currently employed will have to be doubled. As many teachers can work twice those amount of hours already if you include the markings and lesson planning they do away from the classroom. So if the school working day is increased then the number of teachers required will be even higher. The country hasn't presently got enough good teachers. So to more than double their number would be a big ask if not impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 8 hours ago, SchtivePesley said: Yeah - I don't know how the charity/tax exemption thing for private schools is even justified. It would raise a pretty big chunk of cash. I'm in two minds about your second comment. I know what you mean - but then that just perpetuates the "old school tie" privilege, and won't do anything to stop parliament being stuffed with people from privileged backgrounds. That said It's hard to understand the detail of how they are proposing to "integrate them into the state sector" as the media reporting is somewhat histrionic Yes, he went to a private primary school, but a state secondary (albeit a selective school not a comp). Then he went to North London Poly and dropped out without graduating, so it's not much of an argument (unless you're the Sun newspaper I guess) - Plus his primary education was his parents choice not his! He is against selective schools, to the point that he supposedly divorced his previous wife over it... And Diane Abbott is way over child bearing age so it won't matter to her anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, 1of4 said: If the working week is reduced to 32 hours Then the number of teachers currently employed will have to be doubled. As many teachers can work twice those amount of hours already if you include the markings and lesson planning they do away from the classroom. So if the school working day is increased then the number of teachers required will be even higher. The country hasn't presently got enough good teachers. So to more than double their number would be a big ask if not impossible. Exactly, it is not going to happen is it. Just a far left socialist pipe dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 5 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said: I don't think the source of the payments to the school is the issue, just the situation they are all placed in. Now, I didn't go to one of these schools but I am from a town, Rugby, that is dominated by one. And the stories are rife about what goes on. Of course, it could all be gossip about an institution that is, for want of a better description, veiled in secrecy. The idea that well-rounded individuals with an empathetic sense of togetherness come out of these places is not born out by my experience of interaction with the inmates. Seriously, there is nothing secretive about any public school. You will find that the vast majority all have excellent and very open websites; including the one in your home town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 After today’s conference vote, I’m not going to tell Labour if I vote for them until after the general election..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iolanthe Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 If there becomes a 4day week,will this be teachers hence the kids will be getting much less school time.Or would school holidays be reduced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 55 minutes ago, bcnram said: Exactly, it is not going to happen is it. Just a far left socialist pipe dream. Having a good education system shouldn't be a pipe dream for anyone, be it left or right. It should be a necessity of a civilised society. Until every schools in our state education system as the funding to give every pupil the access to the same level of good education, then we as a nation should be ashamed of ourselves. If people want to avail themselves of a privately funded education by sending their children to a public school, there's an oxymoron, that fine but these schools shouldn't receive any taxpayers money and not be able to claim charity status so as to avoid paying taxes like any other business. As for academies and so called free schools these should be closed or put under the same controlling body that will regulate all the state schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 So with the schools, the people who pay the most tax but don’t put their children into state schools but pay for their childs education are penalised. Makes sense if you’re jealous or envy them. How much more would it cost for the extra places in the schools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Van Gritters said: So with the schools, the people who pay the most tax but don’t put their children into state schools but pay for their childs education are penalised. Makes sense if you’re jealous or envy them. How much more would it cost for the extra places in the schools? Never been jealous or envious. I've no problem with anyone sending their sprogs to a public school. Just don't think the fees they are willing to pay should be subsidised by the taxpayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 On 16/09/2019 at 19:59, Uptherams said: So they'll manipulate their currency. The trump administration will love that stick to beat the EU with. While he does exactly the same? https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/19/trump-says-fed-should-cut-rates-by-at-least-1percent-with-perhaps-some-quantitative-easing.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/19/trump-says-fed-should-cut-rates-by-at-least-1percent-with-perhaps-some-quantitative-easing.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, 1of4 said: Never been jealous or envious. I've no problem with anyone sending their sprogs to a public school. Just don't think the fees they are willing to pay should be subsidised by the taxpayer. I don’t know how these places are funded but I know some are expensive. I have seen people do equally well at both types of school. I also don’t agree that just because someone went to a school with a fancy name you should have an advantage. I once got a job because in the interview it turned out the chap interviewing went to the same school as I did. However when I went there it wasn’t a Grammar School anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretsquirrel Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 From a Labour MP: We look like a chaotic,angry,deluded,dangerous rabble.We hate success, hard work, intelligence & wealth.We like mediocrity, irresponsibility.We're chanting the name of our leader like a cult.Why would anyone vote Labour? Text recieved on Newsnight sums it all up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, secretsquirrel said: From a Labour MP: We look like a chaotic,angry,deluded,dangerous rabble.We hate success, hard work, intelligence & wealth.We like mediocrity, irresponsibility.We're chanting the name of our leader like a cult.Why would anyone vote Labour? Text recieved on Newsnight sums it all up As members of a football forum I think we're on dodgy ground trying to say that chanting someone's name en masse makes it a cult! If anything was cult-like it was the way Newsnight essentially straight-up rubbished everything that came out of the Labour conference and virtually begged people to not vote for them. Bring on purdah so we can have some balanced reporting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Woaaaaaah! Quote "The decision to advise her majesty to prorogue parliament was unlawful." Oopsie Boris! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Woaaaaaah! Oopsie Boris! So, will he be sent to prison? The first British PM to go to prison in history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 minute ago, GboroRam said: So, will he be sent to prison? The first British PM to go to prison in history? You'd think so, except I bet he doesn't. I bet he doesn't even bloody resign! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Time for a written constitution, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 His next meeting with the Queen could be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, MK said: Oh still kept our record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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