Yani P Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 On Sky Sports last night - Frank got a mention for the first home win, again they were talking about the need to give him time to replace the players that cannot play the way that fits his philosophy. Interesting comments also from Sidwell and Rosenior on playing Derby in recent seasons - it was clear that teams knew we were soft and if things didnt go right and they could really get at us in the first 15-20 minutes there was a great chance we would roll over. I am sure that is something Frank is fully aware of and one of the things he will want to remove from the club mentality as soon as he can but was an interesting few minutes of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, Yani P said: Interesting comments also from Sidwell and Rosenior on playing Derby in recent seasons - it was clear that teams knew we were soft and if things didnt go right and they could really get at us in the first 15-20 minutes there was a great chance we would roll over. It's a baffling comment because teams are fluid. Who plays now that did when we faced them? Keogh, Forsyth (at the moment), Carson, that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Penelope Pendrex said: It's a baffling comment because teams are fluid. Who plays now that did when we faced them? Keogh, Forsyth (at the moment), Carson, that's about it. Easy cheap quotes from tv media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 24 minutes ago, Yani P said: Interesting comments also from Sidwell and Rosenior on playing Derby in recent seasons Duracell called it the other day. ? https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/30301-is-it-me-or-is-david-prutton-a-slimy/ On 20/08/2018 at 17:18, Duracell said: Everyone who doesn’t blindly predict a Derby win is a red dog. Here’s the list we have exposed in recent years: Don Goodman Ian Holloway Danny Murphy David Prutton Liam Rosenior (okay he hasn’t done it yet but he definitely will). We’ve lost two of our league games so far this year with dodgy defending and continually lose to Ipswich at home. But pundits are paid to ignore facts and neutrality and be pro-Derby, so anyone who doesn’t it obviously against us. That list up there, they sit in a room at BSkyB. They sit together and they hatch a plan to deliberately not predict Derby wins in order to annoy Rams fans. They do it because they’re cynical and they think that cobs should be called rolls and they think aeroplanes with Rolls-Royce engine defects caused 9/11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, Yani P said: On Sky Sports last night - Frank got a mention for the first home win, again they were talking about the need to give him time to replace the players that cannot play the way that fits his philosophy. Interesting comments also from Sidwell and Rosenior on playing Derby in recent seasons - it was clear that teams knew we were soft and if things didnt go right and they could really get at us in the first 15-20 minutes there was a great chance we would roll over. I am sure that is something Frank is fully aware of and one of the things he will want to remove from the club mentality as soon as he can but was an interesting few minutes of discussion. Yep them two achieved very little in thier careers - Rosenior was known more for his dad being decent and sidwell for being ginger or injured and ginger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 25 minutes ago, Penelope Pendrex said: It's a baffling comment because teams are fluid. Who plays now that did when we faced them? Keogh, Forsyth (at the moment), Carson, that's about it. Fozzy never played against either of them as well so, cheap filler opinion really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 They are not anti Derby but they are usually pro the fashionable club and even more so if it’s south of Watford Gap .. yikes we might begin to qualify under the fashionable label ... watch this space sports fans .... but then it will all be because of those Chelsea loans ? so maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Is this a mass debate? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 The game they was referring to was no doubt the game that saw McClaren get sacked for a second time. De Sart horror show, plus an ill-thought out experiment in starting both Nugent & Bent. Nugent. Nugent & De Sart got pulled at half time. Rosenior started, Sidwell as an unused sub. They both played in another two draws against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Penelope Pendrex said: It's a baffling comment because teams are fluid. Who plays now that did when we faced them? Keogh, Forsyth (at the moment), Carson, that's about it. Yet against Millwall it looked like the team was sulking when 2-0 down. They looked like no-one wanted to take responsibility. It was only when Nugent scored that the team perked up. Too many rusks and comfort blankets at Moor Farm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Penelope Pendrex said: It's a baffling comment because teams are fluid. Who plays now that did when we faced them? Keogh, Forsyth (at the moment), Carson, that's about it. Not really baffling. There is one constant. The fans. So quick to get on the players backs. At times it feels that if we’re not 2 up by half time then the crowd are going to boo. Teams know that the fans will turn on the players very easily if things aren’t going our way. First job for the swat team is to frustrate Derby and stop us from getting into a rhythm. Then wait for the fans to get on the players backs. The players get anxious and start making mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 That is the same for every club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, Penelope Pendrex said: That is the same for every club. Yep but surely we need to be better or is being the same acceptable. I’m coming over this week nd and going on Saturday. Slightly worried I will say something to a moaner and get clobbered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisby Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, Spanish said: Yep but surely we need to be better or is being the same acceptable. I’m coming over this week nd and going on Saturday. Slightly worried I will say something to a moaner and get clobbered No it’s not acceptable, we are Derby County and we need to be loud & proud. It’s a chicken & egg situation .... does the support inspire the team or does the team inspire the support .... I go with the former every time. COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboram Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Agree with you on that. Unfortunately though at Derby the team has to inspire the fans. If it hasn’t happened after 10 minutes the result is the Pride Park library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I must admit that having visited Pride Park on several occasions with mates who happen to support what ever opposition we are playing that day. Every one to a man comment on the lack of noise or atmosphere (unless we are on the up) This was bought back to me when one of my mates (Leeds supporter) then took me to a Leeds game. I have to say there fans were awesome even when they went behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkRam Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 18 hours ago, Penelope Pendrex said: That is the same for every club. Not true IMO, I can think of Brentford off the top of my head that just seem chuffed to bits to be where they are and fans always seem to accept the odd bad performance or loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 It's piffle and why everyone who listens to Sky Sports debates deserves everything they get. Why would Derby, with all but every player different from the one they played against and with different management, have the same weakness? It's makes as much sense as homeopathy - just like this suggestion that 'Team X haven't won away at Team Y since 1957' - garbage. Homeopathic garbage..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Can’t comment on Sidwell but I think Liam Rosenior is an excellent addition to sky and speaks very very well. Keith Andrews for me is the best pundit on TV right now. Sidwell and Rosenior have the most recent experience and success playing against Derby of the panel - why would they not just comment on their experience of playing derby without agenda? It’s probably correct, until last season I can’t remember derby coming from behind too often since Mac 1. As for Prutton, he’s not great is slightly biased against Derby. His predictions are based on Derby being in transition judging by his comments - would be logical if Ipswich weren’t also in transition!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 On 22/08/2018 at 20:42, Penelope Pendrex said: That is the same for every club. I can't believe that, although I've never stood in with fans of any other club, I can't imagine there are many clubs as toxic as ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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