Boycie Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: You are Tyrion Lannister and I claim my £5! I may well be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: ? Other than that agree with the rest of the post, happy to sell Vydra if it strengthens the team as a whole. Very good point.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I really hope it's all true and we've signed 4 really good exciting loans. Don't understand why we'd sign 4 players and not announce it though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 7 hours ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: I really hope it's all true and we've signed 4 really good exciting loans. Don't understand why we'd sign 4 players and not announce it though? FFP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 8 hours ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: I really hope it's all true and we've signed 4 really good exciting loans. Don't understand why we'd sign 4 players and not announce it though? It's possible that agreements have been signed, but contracts have not. The latter, as Boycie says, could be waiting for some FFP reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipley Ram Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 8 hours ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: Don't understand why we'd sign 4 players and not announce it though? They want Frank to be there for the press conferance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Think ramblur mentioned next year we would struggle with FFP. So I wonder whether we are on the mark for this year and we are waiting to do business after July 1st. That’s a wild guess but as good as any! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, EnigmaRam said: Think ramblur mentioned next year we would struggle with FFP. So I wonder whether we are on the mark for this year and we are waiting to do business after July 1st. That’s a wild guess but as good as any! Also sounds very sensible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, EnigmaRam said: Think ramblur mentioned next year we would struggle with FFP. So I wonder whether we are on the mark for this year and we are waiting to do business after July 1st. That’s a wild guess but as good as any! From an accounting perspective, I'm not sure that the date we announce a deal makes a great deal of difference.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, ShoreRam said: From an accounting perspective, I'm not sure that the date we announce a deal makes a great deal of difference.... You can sign agreements before said date (which have no financial bearing), then sign contracts on that date. Then announcements follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 3 hours ago, EnigmaRam said: Think ramblur mentioned next year we would struggle with FFP. So I wonder whether we are on the mark for this year and we are waiting to do business after July 1st. That’s a wild guess but as good as any! Without knowing the ins and outs I'd guess for ffp purposes the deal is counted when it is officially 'signed' in the same way that a the fee from a loan to perm is counted at the end of the loan. Prime example is with Forest at the moment, they've signed three very expensive players but only paid for one. The other twos cost will be at the end of next season when they 'officially' become permanent signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, RamLad1884 said: The other twos cost will be at the end of next season when they 'officially' become permanent signings. Correct, though I think those only become permanent if they get promoted (yeah I know...as if...guffaw!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Also would Frank come back and on first day of meeting the players say...oh by the way I’ve signed 4 of the Chelsea youth team ..that would surely make the players feel differently to if....Frank meets them has an assessment then signs them ...walking in with 4 Chelsea loanees might not be the way to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, Saity said: Also would Frank come back and on first day of meeting the players say...oh by the way I’ve signed 4 of the Chelsea youth team ..that would surely make the players feel differently to if....Frank meets them has an assessment then signs them ...walking in with 4 Chelsea loanees might not be the way to do it What's the difference with that and the teams who've signed a bunch of players before pre-season starts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Is Frank back yet or is he still in Russia ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 On 26/06/2018 at 11:57, Anag Ram said: Can't see us signing Palmer. Didn't do enough for me and a new coach will have his own ideas. Palmer was second choice for Rowett, both when he signed him and once he was available. This: 22 hours ago, King Kevin said: Says more about Rowetts judgement than Palmers ability don't know why he loaned him . Palmer's major problem was he was a flair, creative attacking talent - Which always comes with a chance of losing the ball - Rowett much preferred his players hard working and not ball-losing - It's why he couldn't get the best out of Lawrence - Someone needs to fill that lad full of confidence and then just send him out on to the pitch to do whatever he wants On 23/06/2018 at 11:36, admira said: I’ve just met a DCFC employee and had a long chat. I looked them up on the club website afterwards and can confirm the name is correct. I’m not going to reveal it for obvious reasons Guy who works in the shop? Or a legit role? (won't ask what role) Sounds very positive though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, jimbobram said: Is Frank back yet or is he still in Russia ? He finished on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 he's back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, SaintRam said: What's the difference with that and the teams who've signed a bunch of players before pre-season starts? The difference is Lampard hasn’t met any of the squad yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Just now, Saity said: The difference is Lampard hasn’t met any of the squad yet There also isn't the time to review the squad that there has been in the past. The transfer window closes before the season starts. There's no opportunity to see any of the players in a competitive game in his system and still be able to ship them out. He will have to show more reliance in the footage of their performances over previous seasons than other managers have had to. By that notion, he probably already has a good idea of who's surplus to requirements in his mind. He knows he needs to cull the squad, the players know that's his remit too. I'd hope they were able to be more professional about meeting new signings as well as a new manager. If he and Jody Morris are aware of four youth players they are certain will be good players at this level, its a bit of a no-brainer to bring them in early, not only will it benefit having them training for the maximum amount of time, it will be far easier to identify which players are surplus to requirements if you have a full contingent in place already. If there are two players of the same position who have a maybe next to their name, but one of them starts playing really well with one of the new signings, then that player will probably be kept over the other. If you don't bring the new players in, you don't get that opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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