Wolfie20 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Didn't watch today so can't comment on his performance, but think it would be very harsh to dismiss him based on a game at Wembley. These games are different to any other game, you play the game differently to how you normally would, especially the mental aspect. These aren't the games you should judge young players like him on, the big stage like that is where you'd be looking at your experienced men to come in, not the 21 year olds Agree to an extent but if the rumoured £3m fee likely to be asked by Exeter is anywhere near accurate, then I would be expecting a player who is ready to claim a starting place in a Championship side now. The big stage is where your best players should flourish, irrespective of whether they are 21 or 28 with 200+ league games in the locker. I thought he started well but then disappeared but that could be attributed to virtually all the Exeter side. Wheeler was more impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Young player. Biggest game of his career. Perhaps felt the pressure today. Cut him some slack. Been an outstanding talent over the course of the season and deservedly recognised with his award. I took that in to account, didn't really see anything in him. Work rate wasn't especially great either. We have equal talent in our academy, we should promote them rather than drop 4m IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Like I said earlier, Carlisle are one of the worst defenses in the FL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 This is a Gamble no matter what! Biggest game for him so far doesn't have a good game, can happen to anyone! Could blow his chance like today but could also be a gamble that pays off! I would love 1 or 2 signings like this! At 4 million id keep away but at the right price it's worth a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Some very harsh views on him. You should never base a player off one game, especially in such a big game. Remember when Richard Dunne completely bullied Martin at Wembley? Yet fans don't hold that performance against Martin. Not saying whether he is worth it or not worth it but all I can say is that 3 million is nothing nowadays. The market is completely messed up in England. 3 million nowadays will be 15 million in a few years time as prices will continue to inflate. I trust our resident Rams fans in Devon who rate him highly rather than basing him off a high pressure 1 off game, where hardly any of the Exeter players turned up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, CumbrianRam said: Like I said earlier, Carlisle are one of the worst defenses in the FL. Am I missing summat, what does carlisles defence have to do with anything?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Just now, Millenniumram said: Am I missing summat, what does carlisles defence have to do with anything?! People were hyping him as a no-brainer signing based on two perfomances against Carlisle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, CumbrianRam said: People were hyping him as a no-brainer signing based on two perfomances against Carlisle. Ah right, thought I was getting confused over who they played today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 didn't see owt special in him - looked lazy in last 25 mins, ball control awful, didn't try and find space etc .......mind on other things pass from me - need hungry ones in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Ah right, thought I was getting confused over who they played today Its OK mate, should have made my post a bit more clear, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 56 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: Agree to an extent but if the rumoured £3m fee likely to be asked by Exeter is anywhere near accurate, then I would be expecting a player who is ready to claim a starting place in a Championship side now. The big stage is where your best players should flourish, irrespective of whether they are 21 or 28 with 200+ league games in the locker. I thought he started well but then disappeared but that could be attributed to virtually all the Exeter side. Wheeler was more impressive. I agree £3m is too much and i also agree that you can't judge him on one game at wembley what i didn't see today was hard work and a few times he didn't look bothered. He's a young lad and maybe wasn't happy when Reid came on and he had to swap positions a he looked liked he was'nt happy not playing right up front. If we could get him for 1-1.5m then great if not move on in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I thought he played well for the first 20-25 minutes then started trying to do too much by himself. They were doubling up on him and he should have just kept moving the ball on to others in space. In terms of us not paying too much it was a great performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 It's a good job professional football scouts judge players over a prolonged period of games and not on one match, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsy1884 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 I am pretty sure his contact is up at the end of the season so Exeter would have no demands to make apart from taking it to a tribunal for the development fee. So you could agree a fee for 750k to 1mil i would expect. Anything more seems a bit steep on what would be a gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 i was more impressed with Blackpools Brad Potts , a good finish , good touches , strong running , all round good midfield performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 So he failed in the biggest game of the season? Should fit to us, sign him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 30 minutes ago, Premier ram said: i was more impressed with Blackpools Brad Potts , a good finish , good touches , strong running , all round good midfield performance Yeh he has done well all season, i think he will end up at champ level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4derby Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Transfer values are so hard to judge this window. Inflation hasn't just impacted the top clubs and the big deals. If there's truth to the rumour that Watkins is available for £3mill, that may actually prove a decent fee still. Considering his age and position, and that he's English, this is a lad that if he has a good season (or even half a season) at champ level he will be looking at bids of £10mill plus from top end Champ/lower Prem. ridiculous, but the nature of our sport at the minute. Derby need to become a club that has good quality starting players, but also start to grow players (whether through our academy which is the preference) or getting in players whose value will increase hugely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 38 minutes ago, Premier ram said: i was more impressed with Blackpools Brad Potts , a good finish , good touches , strong running , all round good midfield performance Potts is on the list I've suggested in suggestions thread. Good player so as Watkins too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 How about young black lad that he looked quick and strong he could do a job in champership level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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