Rample Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/07/11/brentford-eyeing-ollie-watkins-move/ It begins.. Rather they replace Jota with him than go up against us for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 19 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/07/11/brentford-eyeing-ollie-watkins-move/ It begins.. As Jota replacement maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 While we keep thinking about players we have other clubs who move and take a calculated, informed risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Well with Brentford interested that's good enough for me. Get Watkins signed up, I would rather a player like him on the up, than a player like Sako on his way down. Makes sense really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 If he goes to Brentford you know it's nailed on he'll be worth 10m in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Brentford have obviously got a very good scouting and recruitment network. Each season they purchase players with potential,develop them and sell them on for large profits. Year on year they seem to repeated this same model. GR could do with poaching some of their scouting staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maydrakin Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Why aren't half the message board employed as scouts - we've all known about Watkins for months... based on YouTube and a couple of live games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanRam Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 46 minutes ago, Rab a dab doo said: Brentford have obviously got a very good scouting and recruitment network. Each season they purchase players with potential,develop them and sell them on for large profits. Year on year they seem to repeated this same model. GR could do with poaching some of their scouting staff. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2718752-brentfords-moneyball-way-to-beat-football-teams-with-huge-budgets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Maybe food for thought for DCFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 It's been obvious to Derby fans for flippin ages that the way clubs like Brentford go about things is the way to do it, rather than failing miserably at trying to emulate what Southampton have done. We signed Ince for 5 million and sold him for 8.5 million. Brentford signed Andre Grey for 1 million and sold for 9 million, Hogan was signed for 2.5 million and sold for 15 million. Alan Judge would have gone for double figures had it not been for his injury. I genuinely thought I was down to Warburton but clearly it is a technical director or DOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Rab a dab doo said: Maybe food for thought for DCFC? The moneyball tactic can only be so effective in football though - It worked so well in baseball because the game is essentially so simple - It's just about how consistently you can hit the ball in a certain way The variables in football are much greater and the element of 'magic' which you can't allow for - Iniesta has been mentioned several times in the Hughes thread as an example of a player who might not appear essential in a moneyball model I think if you applied in rigorously you can pick up a few gems - I suspect it will be more useful for quick, basic players (full backs and Anya-esque wingers?) - But I doubt your midfield playmakers are going to look good under the system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 On 29/05/2017 at 12:02, B4ev6is said: How about young black lad that he looked quick and strong he could do a job in champership level. Blacklad or Blackman? Are you changing your mind on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: It's been obvious to Derby fans for flippin ages that the way clubs like Brentford go about things is the way to do it, rather than failing miserably at trying to emulate what Southampton have done. We signed Ince for 5 million and sold him for 8.5 million. Brentford signed Andre Grey for 1 million and sold for 9 million, Hogan was signed for 2.5 million and sold for 15 million. Alan Judge would have gone for double figures had it not been for his injury. I genuinely thought I was down to Warburton but clearly it is a technical director or DOF. It's not that obvious though. There is a long list of teams that have gone down the DOF route that have been much bigger failures than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 47 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: It's not that obvious though. There is a long list of teams that have gone down the DOF route that have been much bigger failures than us. Brentford use a Moneyball-esque system to choose their targets. It's why Warburton left. It's also been a huge success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/apr/05/brentford-ditched-their-academy-premier-league-outcasts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 44 minutes ago, Penelope Pendrex said: Brentford use a Moneyball-esque system to choose their targets. It's why Warburton left. It's also been a huge success. How are you measuring their success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: How are you measuring their success? MASSIVE profits on players and comfortable survival in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 47 minutes ago, Penelope Pendrex said: Brentford use a Moneyball-esque system to choose their targets. It's why Warburton left. It's also been a huge success. Really? In the last three seasons: 14/15 Warburton and no moneyball - 5th 15/16 Moneyball, 9th 16/17 Moneyball 10th. I'd say it hasn't been a huge success.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 It was in place for 14/15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Penelope Pendrex said: MASSIVE profits on players and comfortable survival in the Championship. Would you consider that a success for Derby County? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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