kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Oh he's crap is Thorne. Needs to run about more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 34 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: He was really poor again today, I think a few of you need to take off your blinkers when it comes to Thorne. As opposed to Huddlestone who had a blinder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Wasn't there so cant comment, but giving the ball away trying to play someone through on goal isn't nesseccarily the same as giving it away passing from one mildfieder to another and so on. Butterfield didn't give the away to much, but he was slated for "unadventurous" passing.... Sounded like the team were just "off it" today, so lets no more write thorne off than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 36 minutes ago, Mistaram said: No he wasn't just got a manager who thinks he's a number 10 how dumb is that No he doesnt. Why in his start did he play DM then? Rowett likes Husss and ledley together and so do i. The number 10 is the best way to get Thorne some minutes on the pitch that is all. Its also less of a risk defnesively aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, jagerbob said: No he doesnt. Why in his start did he play DM then? Rowett likes Husss and ledley together and so do i. The number 10 is the best way to get Thorne some minutes on the pitch that is all. Its also less of a risk defnesively aswell. He's also earned a few plaudits when Rowett has played him there previously, which obviously count for nothing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, jagerbob said: No he doesnt. Why in his start did he play DM then? Rowett likes Husss and ledley together and so do i. The number 10 is the best way to get Thorne some minutes on the pitch that is all. Its also less of a risk defnesively aswell. We were getting over run in midfield so for me the Thorne vydra swap was a good move ,he has defensive qualities , he can pass a ball , he can link play and he has a goal in him , you may not start him as a number ten but swapping him for your attacking 10 in today’s game situation .? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 17 hours ago, MuespachRam said: He was really poor again today, I think a few of you need to take off your blinkers when it comes to Thorne. When was he really poor previously? Only recall reading positive views on recent appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, HantsRam said: When was he really poor previously? Only recall reading positive views on recent appearances. I agree. It must be difficult to come into small bits of games yet be expected to play at the level of a player who is 'match fit'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 20 hours ago, MuespachRam said: He was really poor again today, I think a few of you need to take off your blinkers when it comes to Thorne. Is this attention seeking, a joke or just a really stupid question? I can't figure it out. Thorne is the most naturally gifted player on our books by a country mile. He is also the player most certain to prosper in the Premier League, should we get there, and a certain future skipper but you want to focus on the only 9 minutes he has ever played for us as a 10? And it's us that's blinkered?!?!? OK mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I know we all love him but I don't get anyone fretting about him leaving in January? It's not like he's been tearing it up this season and he hasn't really played consistently since 15/16. It's not like the entire league are licking their lips at the thought of having him available in Jan, in fact I doubt the majority of fans in the championship even know who he is. With his injury record, no ones going to be rushing to offer him a deal that's any better than what he's on now. He's clearly a player that suits Rowett, he's loved at Derby and we already know they've been talking about a new contract. As much as everyone seems to buy into the mythos of Ledley, the fact we've barely lost a game with him in the side etc. I think Thorne can seriously look to push him out the side. We need someone in our spine (other than Vyds) who isn't over the age of 30 ffs and I struggle to see what Ledley offers that Thorne doesn't. Neither are quick but they're both intelligent, defensively solid and positionally disciplined. Except Thorne has a passing ability way past that of Ledley and adds even more height to the side. We're 2 points off the autos, finally have stability and some people are seriously worried Thorne will jump ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 21 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Wasn't there so cant comment, but giving the ball away trying to play someone through on goal isn't nesseccarily the same as giving it away passing from one mildfieder to another and so on. Butterfield didn't give the away to much, but he was slated for "unadventurous" passing.... Sounded like the team were just "off it" today, so lets no more write thorne off than anyone else. Wouldn't be surprised to see Butterfield back at PP. What with a new regime going in to Sheff Wed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, europia said: Wouldn't be surprised to see Butterfield back at PP. What with a new regime going in to Sheff Wed. I doubt they can send him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Gritters said: I doubt they can send him back. I thought he was on loan? I meant at the end of his loan period. Should have clarified that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, europia said: I thought he was on loan? I meant at the end of his loan period. Should have clarified that. Yeah at the end of the season. I was expecting him back then. I doubt he'll impress enough to get a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 hours ago, 86 points said: Is this attention seeking, a joke or just a really stupid question? I can't figure it out. Thorne is the most naturally gifted player on our books by a country mile. He is also the player most certain to prosper in the Premier League, should we get there, and a certain future skipper but you want to focus on the only 9 minutes he has ever played for us as a 10? And it's us that's blinkered?!?!? OK mate In your opinion of course... my opinion is that he is ok, a nice average championship player no better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: In your opinion of course... my opinion is that he is ok, a nice average championship player no better than that. He’s better than Hughes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, cannable said: He’s better than Hughes... Ha ha. A very late entry for “joke of the year” but I think you have won with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: Ha ha. A very late entry for “joke of the year” but I think you have won with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Leicester Ram said: I know we all love him but I don't get anyone fretting about him leaving in January? It's not like he's been tearing it up this season and he hasn't really played consistently since 15/16. It's not like the entire league are licking their lips at the thought of having him available in Jan, in fact I doubt the majority of fans in the championship even know who he is. With his injury record, no ones going to be rushing to offer him a deal that's any better than what he's on now. He's clearly a player that suits Rowett, he's loved at Derby and we already know they've been talking about a new contract. As much as everyone seems to buy into the mythos of Ledley, the fact we've barely lost a game with him in the side etc. I think Thorne can seriously look to push him out the side. We need someone in our spine (other than Vyds) who isn't over the age of 30 ffs and I struggle to see what Ledley offers that Thorne doesn't. Neither are quick but they're both intelligent, defensively solid and positionally disciplined. Except Thorne has a passing ability way past that of Ledley and adds even more height to the side. We're 2 points off the autos, finally have stability and some people are seriously worried Thorne will jump ship? Well said. Its pure sentiment about Thorne. Majority of people on here would love him to succeed at Derby because of what he’s been through and because we all know when fully match fit, he’s a damn good player. But if he were to go, while it would be sad, we would more than cope. Personally, I hope he shows some loyalty and signs a new contract. If he’s patient he will get his opportunity, if not this season then next to be the player we hoped he would be and deep down know he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Leicester Ram said: I know we all love him but I don't get anyone fretting about him leaving in January? It's not like he's been tearing it up this season and he hasn't really played consistently since 15/16. It's not like the entire league are licking their lips at the thought of having him available in Jan, in fact I doubt the majority of fans in the championship even know who he is. With his injury record, no ones going to be rushing to offer him a deal that's any better than what he's on now. He's clearly a player that suits Rowett, he's loved at Derby and we already know they've been talking about a new contract. As much as everyone seems to buy into the mythos of Ledley, the fact we've barely lost a game with him in the side etc. I think Thorne can seriously look to push him out the side. We need someone in our spine (other than Vyds) who isn't over the age of 30 ffs and I struggle to see what Ledley offers that Thorne doesn't. Neither are quick but they're both intelligent, defensively solid and positionally disciplined. Except Thorne has a passing ability way past that of Ledley and adds even more height to the side. We're 2 points off the autos, finally have stability and some people are seriously worried Thorne will jump ship? Jesus ****ing wept. that is all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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