Boycie Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Maybe they didn't, because they want to play for Derby and get promoted, but haven't yet managed it. Also just sayin. Do you think Martin wanted to stay? Just askin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockholmRam Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 20 hours ago, Howard Canitbé said: Why you'd want Hoddle after he was sacked from the England job for his views on disabled people is beyond me. Oh don't worry about it Howard... Some of them want Joey Barton mate... There was a thread on Bin Ladens as respectable owners once too..( I made that up Mods... Disclaimer#jokesbystockholmnotbeingserious) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Why do I get the feeling that this is something some fans will never let go? We'll still be hearing "Pearson left before he could do anything" in 20 years time. My view is that he failed. In every sense of the word. The history books should be saying that he failed but unfortunately they won't and this'll always be a sore spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 3 hours ago, curtains said: Do you really think the manager sent them players out to play that crap. I doubt it. So they decided on their own to not play football on the grass and instead pump the ball 30 metres into the air. Come on that is daft!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 3 hours ago, Paul71 said: and injured. That is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, Tombo said: Why do I get the feeling that this is something some fans will never let go? We'll still be hearing "Pearson left before he could do anything" in 20 years time. My view is that he failed. In every sense of the word. The history books should be saying that he failed but unfortunately they won't and this'll always be a sore spot. The same way people think Clough was on the verge of getting it all together? The way some think Clement could have turned it around? I can only think of Jewell in the last 10 years who left with a universal certainty it was for the best, perhaps we should add Pearson to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, BondJovi said: The same way people think Clough was on the verge of getting it all together? The way some think Clement could have turned it around? I can only think of Jewell in the last 10 years who left with a universal certainty it was for the best, perhaps we should add Pearson to that. Good point tbf, can't dispute that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 This is best for all parties. Derby get to replace a clueless manager not being propped up by his superb support team anymore. Pearson gets a bit of a pay off and his reputation isn't dragged through the dirt as much as it would have been. We still have a (remote) chance of the play offs this season if whoever the next manager is plays to the strengths of this talented squad. People will moan; oh the players went behind the manager's back, bunch of cowards, Pearson should've been given more time. I will say; if I wanted dour football, served up by an uncharismatic manager, playing players in positions that didn't suit them, we should've stayed with Clough. The upside of Clough is that he isn't as arrogant, sneering to the press and is a genuinely likeable person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James1989 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Maybe he did do something wrong? However he seems very good at sacking managers after a short period of time. I mean don't get me wrong I wasn't a massive fan of clement but he did get us top then sacked him when they hit 5th... Mel is making alot of errors in my opinion, that includes possibly employing the wrong managers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Clement showed little evidence that he understood what was going wrong and showed absolutely no understanding on how he could fix it. What he should have done was played Bucko and had somebody always looking to support Martin as quickly as possible. Instead he failed to recognise that teams were actually happy if Shackell had the ball at his feet and that playing Jeff up front wasn't going to work. Look at the starting line up against Fulham; it was just a throw of the dice wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 19 hours ago, James1989 said: Yeah it's still idiotic. Different era, not managed any "big clubs", his rep was already gone when he got to us. Which big club did Pearson manage? Surely that's the point? He took small clubs to the PL? A bit like Eddie Howe has done so well. He had 2 months and thank god he had no more. We were the lowest scorers in English or Scottish football. We played abysmal stuff. What does the "era" have to do with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 19 hours ago, James1989 said: Also jewell had 13 month, Pearson had 2 month. Stupid post because you don't like someone. Idiotic You're really really hurting my feelings now. So nasty to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Boycie said: Do you think Martin wanted to stay? Just askin He came in to pre-season training two weeks early, so initially yes. After getting little game time from Pearson, who can say. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 19 hours ago, Simsy said: He wouldn't get near 60 in the next 3 years!! It's a nice stat to have but that's the past and I think with the service he's got there are plenty of strikers who would have got that tally. I see he's on one of his goal draughts again with 0 in 20. That's dreadful. Let's move on!!! Maybe not. My point more being in you'd rather see him struggle than be a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 So where do we go from here? Is our aim promotion through the play offs this season? Do we blood the youth? Anyone thinking they know what our plan is, please let the rest of us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, Uptherams said: So where do we go from here? Is our aim promotion through the play offs this season? Do we blood the youth? Anyone thinking they know what our plan is, please let the rest of us know. I doubt anyone at the club has a strategic plan. We have a squad who some say should be dismantled, others suggest requires just a tweak. Also the club now needs a new manager, one who will do it the chairmans way. Our league position isn't good and play offs are a long shot at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, bcnram said: So they decided on their own to not play football on the grass and instead pump the ball 30 metres into the air. Come on that is daft!!! Take a look out our awful defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, bcnram said: So they decided on their own to not play football on the grass and instead pump the ball 30 metres into the air. Come on that is daft!!! Take a look out our awful defending and tell me why the players aren't at fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Tombo said: Why do I get the feeling that this is something some fans will never let go? We'll still be hearing "Pearson left before he could do anything" in 20 years time. My view is that he failed. In every sense of the word. The history books should be saying that he failed but unfortunately they won't and this'll always be a sore spot. So, for the purposes of clarity and to get things into the correct historical context, we employ a manger, give him 8 games to assess his squad, let him buy a few players, then give him 6 games and sack him. And he’s judged a failure on that? Quiet incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, bcnram said: So they decided on their own to not play football on the grass and instead pump the ball 30 metres into the air. Come on that is daft!!! Take a look at this defending and tell my why the players aren't at fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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