BOB BIGGS

We moan because our team is inconsistent. My mate supports Cheltenham and they’re consistently rubbish.
We have it lucky compared to some.
Not long ago we were praying for a club of any standard.
My dream is a fanbase that’s more respectful of each other and other clubs.
It’s of an atmosphere of celebration each week that we have a club we love.
In my dream, Derby’s players are desperate to play for their manager and the rams badge.
I hope it comes true.

Oh my goodness, what a response!
Hello everyone, I’m Claire, Daniel’s (B4) sister. I am overwhelmed by your kind words, support, and the memories you have shared.  Thank you so much for the kindness and love you have all shown to Daniel over the years. My parents are working their way through all of the posts and will offer their own thanks in due course.
I wish I knew about the scraves, flanges and ballions before now. I wouldn’t have let Daniel live that down at home. This made my husband and I laugh this morning.
I will be wearing Daniel’s shirt and keeping his seat warm at the Bristol match. Really looking forward to hearing a big cheer and round of applause in the 38th minute, a goal at the time would be perfect!  Do please continue to share the picture with details of the applause. Let’s raise the roof for Daniel!!!
Thank you all again ❤️
#BeMoreB4 

How can the passing of someone whom I never had the pleasure of meeting and have never, to my memory, interacted with directly on here, caused me to shed tears? But that's exactly what has happened. I post very rarely but have been around since the DET days and B4's posts have always stood out during this time. I like to think I'm a positive person but, to his credit, he took it to a different level entirely. The underlying memories I have have been discussed extensively during this thread, but I would like to bring attention to this forum in always being there to defend him against anyone unknowing of his dyslexia. He obviously had the full support and love from you all and I'm sure he knew and appreciated that during his painfully short life. As such it's no surprise to hear and read the outpouring of love, grief and memories from everyone. May he rest in peace in that big old football stadium in the sky.

Such very sad news.
I never met B4 however his unbounded enthusiasm, passion and loyalty to the club was a inspiration to so many Rams fans, even an old cynic like me.
Rest easy B4.
 

This made me cry. Such a beautiful soul and to echo what everyone else has said already, he’ll be sadly missed.
I never met him but I did see him from a distance in town once and I text my mates saying “you’ll never guess who I’ve seen” - makes me laugh now that I’m reflecting upon it, he was like a celebrity!
So passionate, so blindly hopeful and also I like to remember he was very inspirational when it comes to things like his battle to overcome dyslexia.
absolute legend, I don’t even know why I’m surprised at how very sad this has made me. I never met you, but I feel a deep sense of loss so you obviously had an impact
 
RIP B4

RIP Daniel. We didn’t know each other and I never had the pleasure of meeting you but to me , on this forum, you were Mr Derby County. I loved your positivity and your passing puts everything concerning DCFC into perspective. My heart felt condolences to your family & friends. Your passing came too soon, I hope you are at peace and we will all miss you. Today was for you B4. 

First and foremost, my thoughts are with Daniel's friends and family, I cannot imagine what they are going through right now.
I heard the news last night and it came as a huge shock, B4 as we knew him so fondly by will be a huge loss to the forum.
He was Mr Positivity, Derby County's biggest cheerleader, even during the bad times his positivity would shine through.
I know his Dad was at the game today with a scarf on his seat, whilst we haven't closed the gap on Portsmouth in Daniel's final rallying call on this forum, I'm sure he will be over the moon with the 3 goals and 3 points today.
DCFC Fans will be honouring Daniel in time to ensure he remains in our memories, we will also be contacting the club in due course to see what can be done during a game.
Suggestions are welcomed as we all come to terms with the loss.
Rest in peace Daniel. ❤️🐏

I have some very sad news this evening.  Daniel (B4) died earlier this week. He was just 38.
As you know, he has been battling numerous health conditions for a long time, but always remained cheerful  and was the most loyal supporter of his beloved Rams, home and away.
He was at the match at Crewe and gave his full support as always. 
Daniel leaves behind a grieving dad, mum and sister. Our thoughts go out to them and we only hope they get a little comfort from knowing how well loved Daniel is by all who know him. 
Here are a couple of photos that his dad agreed could be shared. I'm sure many of you have others, as Daniel loved a selfie at the game.
David is hoping to arrange a more fitting tribute in time, but for now please raise a glass in his memory and a good Derby win today. I am sure that's what Daniel would have been doing tonight.
 

You think we'll be relegated?

Be realistic - they've performed well against a PL academy team and shown promise, but that doesn't mean they're anywhere near ready for a L1 fixture. And a manager who's only the next poor result away from another absolute slagging is unlikely to risk putting them in the team when his full squad is nearly fit. Hopefully some of them will get further chances in this competition and then may get minutes against a proper mens team.

Proper fans, aren’t they…😎😳

Proper fans, aren’t they…😎😳

A hat trick for the donkey! Well done Collo!

Boooooooooooooooo!!!!!
 
(am I doing it right?)

Looking down from my helicopter...
IIRC, the internet was full of people slating Rosenior's apparently preferred slow play through the thirds and crying LR out. I wasn't one of them. It was his first rodeo and he had us in 7th place. Not bad for a rookie. He had said in interviews on several occasions that he wanted the players to up the ball circulation tempo. Sibs and other players also confirmed that in interviews they did. Unfortunately, the play didn't speed up. IMO, the players were capable of moving faster through the thirds but didn't for some reason. I'd have kept faith in LR.
David Clowes didn't keep faith. It surprised me but his motivation for the change looked solid. PW had 3 promotions from L1 in 5 seasons. OK, so 2 relegations in between as well but that could be seen as more a "Rotherham thing" than a Warne issue. The 4 year contract? Might that be down to PW having seen how totally keen DC was to get him and his staff that he knew he could push the boat out with regard to his contract. Hence the 4 years. Maybe DC had been too enthusiastic towards PW and his staff which would have been a mistake. However, IMO, you can't fault the logic DC used. He wanted someone with L1 pedigree with a record of success there. PW ticks the boxes, doesn't he? last season he had the Millers in 8th when he jumped ship to come to Derby. Dizzy heights for RUFC, They ended the season jus 6 points above the drop.
None of us know the background. It is totally feasible that, under the terms of the business deal, we may well have the money to pay PW and his staff off but aren't allowed to spend that amount within the terms of the agreement. Would exceeding the spending limits invoke a points deduction? Wouldn't that be great...
Speaking from hindsight... fans have their opinions and are entitled to them. However, they should also take into account all relevant facts. DC might actually want to change managers but is hogtied by the business plan. All manner of things. The state of the poll at the moment is there have been too few good performances and too many less than average and poor ones.
If you think DC has made mistakes, say so by all means but leave out the vitriol.
PW looks like he's here for a good while yet so let's look at games and criticise what we deem to be errors. Leave out the vitriol.
Criticise poor performances by players, by all means.... no vitriol.
Say what was poor, explain why, offer improvements. Just commenting that so and so was dog poo and leaving it there is plain negative. Get behind the XI on the park. Starting tonight, let's see and hear the fans on the front foot from the off. They keep telling us it gives them a lift. Lift them. You never know, it might just help them put on a positive performance... Player play, supporters support. Twas ever thus.
COYR !

I have to echo the comments of @BramcoteRam84.
To win back the fanbase, Warne needs a sustained run of positive results and performances to return the feel good factor. I am not sure the fanbase will tolerate many more showings like we saw on Saturday. It’s reached Hail Mary territory.
However it’s hard to know where he stands with Clowes as we don’t know their relationship and what expectations have been laid out. It might be the case that Clowes anticipated some bumps in the road. Given the cost of a managerial change can be thousands if not millions, maybe he will let things play out longer to ‘protect his investment’. We know if it was Mel, he would have been sacked weeks ago. 
What I am struggling with is who comes next. It’s not an easy job to walk into. It’s a squad with signings from two different managers, a squad plagued by inconsistency and weighed down by expectation, a squad with very few players secured on long term contracts, and a club that is still in recovery from administration and without the financial flexibility of years gone by.
The idea of a young, up-and-coming, progressive manager with the right principles seems to appeal to many. However I do think people underestimate the level of backing needed for such an appointment to work and whether our patience would really last if there were mixed results.
People want to point to the good jobs being done by Kieran McKenna at Ipswich and Rosenior at Hull as to why a good coach with the right principles is the way forward, yet both of them have needed significant investment in the playing side to accelerate matters.
Yes, we might be able to get a better coach in than Warne but good coaches also need good players. I just don’t know that our squad is really as good as people imagine and whether our financial position will allow us to bring in the players needed to make the favoured style work.

Nigel Pearson is free now. Anyone? 

I understand that when the football isn’t pretty, and the league position is dire, football fans will inevitably lash out. However, I am amazed that there are a good number on here tonight slating our owner. This is a staggering state of affairs even for our club, only some 15 months since he saved us.  Cool it down lads. 

Does anyone remember administration and 21 point deduction and nearly losing the club all together.
 

Just had a quick scan at all the options people are putting forward and can guarantee that by Christmas most would be getting slagged off and Clowes would be slated for giving them the job.

Sure this won’t be popular but I think Warne should have until Xmas to have us in the top six. I would call myself pro-stability rather than pro-Warne and I understand why so many of the fans have turned - we haven’t improved as quickly as any of us would want and we’re currently not good enough going forward.
But I’d say he deserves longer to fix that than it looks like he’s going to get.
My concern is that the fanbase seems to think that a change of manager could get us into the top two and speed up our promotion, I think that’s wrong - the top two is gone already imo and having another new manager coming in isn’t going to speed up our timeline. 
How many times this past decade have we sacked a manager because we thought it would get us promotion quicker? Look where we are now. I think that the fanbases expectations have been damaged by that and we’re now turning on managers quicker than we should.
If people are being real with themselves, how many of you are Warne out because you’re panicking that we’ll be in League One again next season? It’s short-termism. As much as Ipswich spent a few seasons more than they’d like in League One, they get promoted the right way and are reaping the benefits now.
Sacking another manager early into the season isn’t doing things the right way. Said this before but the day after the Villa playoff final, we had a squad made up of seven managers different signings. Whereas in 13/14, McClaren inherited a unified, hungry dressing room all signed by one manager.
Chopping and changing is what got us into this mess, we’ve just let a manager shape our squad and now we’re going to get rid of him before the halfway point of the season?
I see a lot of people talking about the top two - I thought that was unlikely after the first five games, it was an overhauled squad which was still adding players who were going to be in the starting XI (Fornah, John-Jules, Nyambe). It didn’t look cohesive and I didn’t think we’d have a good enough start to put together an automatics push. So far, that looks like an accurate assessment. 
Part of why I’ve had patience with Warne is that I think we were closer to starting from scratch than it looked on paper. I agree that the 5 at the back fiasco isn’t a good look but I don’t think the transition from this season to last season is as straightforward as some people make it out. That is partly Warne’s fault as he tried to change our system but I didn’t see many people on here this summer disagreeing with him switching to the back five/signing Sonny Bradley - it you were one of the five or so posters on here doing that, don’t quote this letting me know; I don’t give a toss
However, I think there is now a legitimate argument as to whether he sees out the season as I don’t think we’ve improved as quickly as anyone would like after that slow start. I would have said he has until the end of the season a month back so I’ve now sped that up to an assessment at Xmas
I’m personally disappointed with how quickly the fans have turned on Warne. Warne certainly deserves until Xmas to try to turn this around but the fans may drive him out; I don’t think that’s the sign of a healthy club, that decision should lie with Clowes and he shouldn’t be pressured into creating more turbulence at an already very turbulent club to satisfy the mob.
I will always be anti-booing the team/manager, our role at games should be as supporters and I think booing/chanting at Warne is more akin to acting like a customer.
And when people’s complaint is the football isn’t entertaining enough, you are definitely a customer rather than a supporter.
I don’t buy into this idea that we need to see entertaining football but what we do need is effective football.
My concern with Warne is I don’t think he knows how to get this team scoring 2+ goals per game regularly - as far as I’m concerned, the football can be as ugly as a sunburnt Susan Boyle as long as we’re scoring goals and winning games.

The ECB backed the dreaded 100 at the expense of the 50 over game. That’s left many of our players with little current experience of playing this format. 
 
Well done the ECB😎
 
 

I couldn’t agree more. I’m rarely on here at the moment and I largely avoid Twitter. All the negativity and moaning for the sake of it is really draining and really getting me down. The only thing ruining the current season for me is our own supporters.
So, I’m now largely avoiding football on social media and just enjoying going to Pride Park to watch the matches. And yes, I am enjoying them. 

I'm hardly reading the Derby section of the board at the moment - so sick of the bickering, pettiness and in-grained opinions. Most have already made their minds up and just want to reinforce their opinions by repeating the same old crap over and over again.....
We have a League One squad and a League One manager - bitching isn't going to change that....

Properly get pelters for this as 80% seem to have made their mind up over Warne, but anyone else just had enough with the constant negativity towards the players and staff? It’s relentless.
Even after last nights win I’m seeing people try and twist it negatively, overall last night we played faster tempo had chances and won end off, so why the negativity?
Warnes come out and said last night about blocking outside noise out, really think knocking them will help? It’ll only make it worse, 5 in 11 for Collins decent return, what’s booing him and giving him stick going to do? Why can’t we get behind them? We’re in league 1 we won’t have world beaters that will do everything so perfectly. 
 
1 defeat in 10 due to some terrible refereeing it’s not anywhere near as bad as people are making out, it’s as if we’ve won 1 in 10.
I can be as negative as anyone and as annoyed as anyone when we drop points etc but it’s the bigger picture move on we go again, It’s not an easy league like people expect, Sunderland sheff united Ipswich Bolton etc all got stuck for time, and probably only Bolton started in a worse rebuild situation as us… 
it’s absolutely draining all the constant ‘get him gone’ ‘whose next’ ‘he’s just a P.E teacher’ I’ve missed 1 away game and 1 home and it’s honestly making me not want to go, Blackpool people singing ‘warne your football is sh*t’ then 5 minutes later singing his name, honestly think if people stop over reacting and seemingly wanting Warne to fail we could get out of this league this year. Rant over roll on the draining stick that’ll come…