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My concern is how to beat the poohouse.

We have never showed any inclination of being able to defeat the Championships dross with any consistency for some years now. League 1 is packed full of such teams. We have regularly beaten top six sides but not those who come to disrupt.

Our side again seems to be full of players who can play the beautiful game but all it takes is 11 fit guys harassing around and we won't be able to get our game going.

I have seen nothing so far in the signings that we have made that we have a plan B. We need a big, route 1, striker or  I think we'll struggle and Liam will be sacked by Christmas. .

Hou might you be?

13 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

There’s inconsistency there, historically at least, I guess that’s the argument of the “1 good game in 10” brigade. Probable questions around temperament as well given his disciplinary record. I just think he’s been, and would continue to be, an asset for the team (if he stays). He would definitely be of use to a championship side if he goes, especially if he has other players alongside him who carry a goal threat and would occupy defenders. 

It wasn't all sweetness and light last season either. He got himself a three match ban which resulted in 3 straight defeats and it could be argued stopped the momentum we'd built up which meant we failed to catch Reading. 

Lawrence as has been said can be brilliant and had a better than average season last year but looking at, hopefully what is coming in today, I think we'll be fine without him.

I think getting Davies to sign a new deal is vital right now.

We need a strong leader to keep a check on these big characters coming in. Rosenior doesn't seem the kind of guy to mete out a decent boIllocking when it's needed which is why I think Curtis is the key to making a team out of them. If this all comes to pass we could be in for a real treat this season.

Ravel has gone. I’ll be amazed if Lawrence stays so  surely this leaves the path open for Sibley to make his mark on the No10 berth.

3 hours ago, jimtastic56 said:

Could be that Curtis wants a 2 year deal.He is worth keeping around just in case it doesn’t work out for Rosenior. If we are not in the top 6 at Xmas  some fans will be calling for a change and Curtis would have a lot of backing for the job.

No sentiment in football. If I was DCFC I’d be telling Curtis there’s the deal we haven’t got time to mess about as you of all people know that so either sign or go. We have to know where we stand quickly.

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7 minutes ago, Howard Canitbé said:

How long would you say somebody needs to stay to "pay us back". One season in L1? Two? 

If a top flight Italian club wanted to offer me a contract and I was a free agent I'd almost certainly do what he's doing.

Not every player has to have unwavering loyalty to the club, for me the effort most of that squad put in last year is commitment enough. 

No problem with the lad going to Italy. It’s about leaving us with nothing from our investment in him. As I said I’d of liked to see him give us a season or at least have signed a contract so someone had to pay us something. But not not young Ebosele. It’s so long thanks for all the investment and putting my profile out there. Pardon? Help DCFC out because they’re broke? No chance I’m off.

10 minutes ago, bimmerman said:

Unnecessary

He's a young kid trying to forge a future in the game.

We're better then this as a fanbase...

Not buying it. First chance he was off. No loyalty, he could have given us a season or signed a contract so we got a fee but what the hell why should he care. He got paid to learn at Derby and had no qualms at all about going at the first opportunity with no thought of paying us back. 
 

12 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said:

https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2022/07/ebosele-leaves-derby-at-end-of-contract-for-udinese-switch

A little surprised at the u21s going, I have to say. 

No problem there he was crap anyway.

There's plans to build houses on the Chad side of Acorn Way. Locko estates want a piece of the action and want to double the rent or they'll evict DCFC and cash in on the housing boom.

Erewash Borough Council, in which the Locko Estate lies, has it's Headquarters in Long Eaton which has a Nottinghamshire postcode. The Red Dog filth are apparently prepared to listen to a plan to build affordable housing on Moor Farm.

5 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

That's good. Got a ring of plausible to it, if unlikely.

If true, I will be a bit annoyed.

However, presumably if it is true it'll come out. I doubt Ashley could do that and have it not reported on.

 

There could be a nice little outcome from the Ashley action against Q and that could be that an Ashley win would see Q’s fee for the shambles they presided over being lost in fines 

No not happening today.

Ashley hijack is the most likely cause. He’s probably filed an injunction to stop the sale pending the outcome of his action against Q regarding the assumed PB status in Jan.

It would be unwise to go with Rosenior it our current circumstances.

We need a complete overhaul which cannot be done by a Rookie. New players to find, an ethos to compete at this level to be found and a leader to put it all into practice. It’s just too much to take on. Rooney couldn’t do it as a Rookie and the task ahead regarding the team is far harder now.

An experienced operator needed. 

Too bad for Liam he may think he’s earned a shot but DC would be mad to give him the job.

Rooney can do one. He was rubbish for us a a player and was eying Cocu’s job from the start.  He definitely never gave the Dutchman 100% which ironically is what he expected of his players. We barely survived relegation after an appalling run of results in his first season and presided over the longest run of away defeats in history is his second.
I fell for his man of the people routine but when it came to the crunch and his dream ownership team fell apart he was off-ski leaving us looking for a new manager needing to find a new squad and start from scratch. 
 

Probably an unpopular opinion but it’s how I see it.

So long Wayne.

I think as a business man whose expertise is property he probably was first attracted by the possibility of getting PP for a song. It's a great addition to their property portfolio. Obviously it's not that good an investment without a football club so having become the owner last week he probably thought the best move to guarantee an income was to make sure he had a team to play in it.

He’s a property developer. Just watch PP plaza fly up now.

21 hours ago, Sparkle said:

Then you don’t see good players in front of you then 

It's a matter of opinion of course but Ebosele is not as good as some think.

I think he has a turn of speed but no end product. Everyone watching including the coaches saw it. After a year of coaching to presumably get him to look up and cross it saw no improvement at all. He'll do nothing in his career. Buchanan though, has a bit more about him and would prefer if he stayed.

14 minutes ago, NottmRAM said:

We would be relegated for sure. We'll have an attendence of around 16,000 and no players of championship quality. Last season was all about sticking it to the EFL but next season on -15 points, it will be down to the new owner. No group of players will put in 100% every week when it's the owners fault and the fans will throw the towel in also.

But the "bring Mike Ashley in" brigade don't see it.

15 points deduction next season will mean League Two the following season.

We are in the realms on just hoping we have a club. Points deductions and possible relegation to league two a of minor concern to be honest.

Shout to Ed Dawes.

He is a Derby fan and was as desperate for news as the rest of us. 
He did the right thing in throwing that grenade on the fire last Tuesday. When the fallout settled the truth became known because Kirchner was forced to poo or get off the pot.

With time running out for us to find an owner it was vital that the CK bid got called out in order for us to move on before it was too late. 
 

The abuse he has received for this by so called DCFC supporters especially to a fellow Ram has been awful.

Ed’s grenade may have come just in time to save us. He should be thanked for having the balls to pull the pin in the first place.

14 minutes ago, enachops said:

If we can’t show proof of funds for the season then the EFL will remove our ‘golden ticket’. That’ll be basically be us done. I don’t see how we can prove funds for a whole season at this moment in time without a takeover. 

Of course but the only way we won’t be able to show funds is if we are liquidated. Which is down to the admins and nothing to do with the EFL as I stated in the complete post you have referenced here.

The EFL are a side show in this not a player.

4 hours ago, Red Ram said:

Not too soon at all. It's two weeks before the League One fixtures are due to be out. The EFL need to be sure we can actually complete the season before scheduling them. Things are going to need to happen at record speed if we're going to survive. I still think we probably will but it's not far off 50:50 at this point. We need to accept that liquidation is a realistic possibility. The question asked by Jimbobob are entirely legitimate at this point. Personally I'd like to know the answers - it would make it easier to deal with the possibility that it might happen!

I think the fixtures being out is no deadline. It’s the admins who liquidate a club not the EFL. Sure from their point of view it makes life easier not to have to redo the fixture list and let’s not forget they where quick enough to say they would draw up two fixture lists last season as we awaited punishment.

The EFL do not have a dog in this hunt but in my opinion they just want to be seen that they are applying pressure on the admins to get a deal done. A cynical person might say they only got proactive after being chewed out by Team Derby MPs and are desperate to look like they are all over it in a bid to avoid legislation.

Lets not forget how slow they acted when it suited them to scupper previous deals.

3 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

Any port in a storm.

Mel left in the only lifeboat.

Q were confident we'd be able to sail to a friendly port but the ship keeps getting lower in the water.

After finally deciding to make for a neutral port in the Americas the situation keeps getting worse, and we may final have to try for a hostile port to save our skins, all the while hounded by sirens and trying (and not being very good at) to avoid the rocks.

Captain Quantuma clearly should face a naval board of enquiry upon return to shore.

Kept true to the analogy. No mixed metaphors. Excellent work. ? 

Trying to buy the club with make believe money is always going to be tricky.

How do you convince someone that something you can’t see or touch is real and has value?

I certainly have no idea what crypto currency is and would not trust it not to vanish into to thin air. In fact I believe I am wrong. Maybe it exists in the gaps in between thin air…or maybe it doesn’t.

If Ed’s right then I think we’ve dodged a bullet in the long term. 
A lot of short term pain though. Rooney will go. Probably end up Ashley and -15 and a tough year ahead.