atherstoneram

I’m astonished by the title of this thread. I haven’t read the opening post because of editorial reasons ? but to me, to not blame the guardian of this football club is laughable.
I assume he thought we would be in the Premier League by now and out of the EFL’s jurisdiction so sailing close to the wind would have little or no consequences. 
I have no doubt Morris had very good intentions for this club and I’ll hold my hands up, I truly believed his ownership/leadership was a good thing, but then, I was under the impression the club would be run in a responsible manner. How wrong was I ? 
Say what you like about goalposts being shifted by the EFL, but if we’d compiled our accounts like the majority of other clubs instead of being smart arses, discovering loopholes and congratulating ourselves on how clever we’d been, this catastrophe (and that’s what it is) would have been avoided. 
Remember the times Morris couldn’t keep his trap shut ? Appearing at forums, TalkSport, EMT, taking in all the adulation of the supporters ? Now we’re up the creek not a duckin’ peep out of the bloke.
Don’t blame Morris an Pearce ? The sooner they’ve gone the better this club will be, our reputation is shot to pieces and the playing side of things ? Don’t get me started on that and it’s down to two people who, it transpires, aren’t as clever as they think they are.

Yes because I’m a grown up who doesn’t seek to blame the mess we are in on those nasty EFL people as opposed to the owner of our football club. Why hasn’t the club filed accounts for the last 3 years? Why have we tried to game the system while other clubs haven’t? Mel isn’t as smart as he thinks he is and the football authorities have caught up with him, simple as that. 

Can we just admit defeat. Mel was trying be a clever baalocks with all the amortisation policy, it hasn't worked, he wants gone. Let him go, let us hold our hands up and say we were wrong and just move forward. It's getting boring now.

Maybe its just me but I can't sit here and cry about the EFL after the way we've been operating for the past few years. 
Rolled the dice, failed multiple promotion attempts and have tried loophole after loophole to try and straighten out since. How many non-parachute payment clubs were giving Darren Bent (and the rest) tens of thousands a week in this division? Sold their stadium to themselves? Signed a player through a sponsorship deal? Registered player amortisation different to the required standard? 
I just can't sit here and say we've tried our best to avoid this mess, its been coming. 
If that view makes me less of a Derby fan than the super supporters are, so be it. I'll support the club where ever it ends up but I'm not going to lie about its shady activity post 2014. 
 

The EFL are not fit for purpose but they represent all clubs many of which may see our practices as wrong, if they did not pursue us in this matter they would be rightfully criticized by all the other clubs.  They are doing their jobs however poorly it may appear

Quite honestly a portion of blame needs to be put at the door of all the parties involved. The EFL for pursuing a vendetta and not doing their job competently in the first place leading to post facto rules being imposed upon us- hounding us through the courts until they eventually got their judgement whilst letting more egregious cases in the past sail onto the premier league. 
However, pretending Mel and Pearce are blameless in this is borderline lobotomy thinking. They've been playing around with the accounts because we've been spending money we haven't really got and it's led us to this point of absolute financial disaster that is crippling the club. At the same time, Morris has managed to alienate big players in the league and our governing body to the point they're sending out press releases with alternative fixture lists of us going down. It's just further representation of how absolutely dire that man's ownership of this club has been. 

we can all say duck the efl and yes they're a poorly run organisation that are going off the rails but Mel's also put us into this position. I imagine it's become an absolute battle of wills and the collateral damage is the financial and football health of this institution. 

I'm definitely blaming Mel Morris

But this has all been self induced.... just do the accounts properly, do it the same as everyone else, why give them the ammunition in the first place. 

I will blame who I want thanks. Those twits kept putting the bullets in the gun and now are surprised someone pulled the trigger ?‍♂️

Are you for real !

Blame Mel Morris, not the EFL. If he hadn’t tried to game the system we wouldn’t be in this position.

So if we’re compliant for those years we stay up, if we breach we go down? Maybe there’s finally an end result in sight. Unless of course the EFL then decide to punish us for the years after as well.
Youd imagine the club will already know the result of those recalculations so I’d fully expect silence all day if we’ve breached.

Please don't blame Mel and Pearce? Seriously?
The sooner these two are out the door, the better. Road us to ruin. 

Please don't blame Mel and Pierce?! Are you serious? So who are we to blame? The tooth fairy? Mary Poppins? The EFL? Mel and Pierce are the two sole individuals responsible for our current predicament, they run the club for christ's sake (very badly might I add). The sooner they both duck of the better, and I for one will be glad to see the back of them. Totally incompetent the both of them, and I don't give a rats if "his heart is in the right place". Mel has a duty of care and responsibility towards our club. He has failed miserably. Go back to making games, and leave running a football club to people who know what they are doing.

In my opinion your post is way of the mark, Mel plays with a straight bat, lol, are u related to Mel, sorry but Mel has to take the blame, he employed the managers, he was the owner , so should have been aware what was going on at the club he has made more mistakes than any other chairmen i can remember and he is a so called fan, the sooner he is gone the better. Enough said now, we all know my opinion on Mel, and as u can see its not a good one, as being the chairmen of Derby County. 

It's ok we will be fine, we have everybody's hero Mel Morris, the finest chairman in the land, alongside Stephen Tonto Pearce to steer the club through turbulent waters.
 

Or because the Derby County ownership are a bunch of inept idiots who couldn’t organise a *** up in a brewery.

Rubbish, Mel can put more in, Mel is full of himself, i been through this many times now, but we have 13 senior pros on the books, and the youth policy was used as Mel knew he had made so many mistakes, and did not want to put any more money in  Derby problems do fall on  Mel decision making, make no mistake about that. 

Is the U23 league really a reflection of how good the young players of those clubs are? I think this is may be why we seem to think our academy is better than it is because of our success in these competitions... when actually the really good U23s are already staring in regular first team football such as how Mounts career has panned out.

Yes I think he was in a position but dont think he really tried apart from the short stint where Bielik was available.
He took over a team that was used to playing slow boring football, low on confidence. 
He found a formula that got us some results on the board and away from trouble. 
Do you think how we played last season is how he wants his teams to set up?

So you don’t think he was in a position to implement his style of play during the 35 games last season?

As anti Tory as I am and blame them for most things,I don't think they're to blame for Derby being crap,that's all on Mel Morris I'm afraid

More like quicksand and sinking deeper by the day

He was yes , so do you now bang him on a new long term deal and then get the old familiar TL back and wish you had never have done it or just let him go now . Form me its let him go far to ineffectual over far to many match's and puts the whole stupid drinking incident to bed . While he is here it will forever still come up . Time to move on and let him go . 

MM probably hasn't got the will or energy to argue anymore,he just wants rid.