Oldben

If its purely on the grounds of covid, then I think its like wigan and we will fail the appeal.

If Derby get a further 9 points they are relegated, so of course Derby have to appeal the 12 points already given.
Problem is the appeal against the points route been tried before and it failed.
It's very tough in League One as my understanding is that all clubs have very limited wage budget plus their transfer budgets are the same in as much as they are not allowed to spend beyond a certain amount on transfers.
That was designed to give a competitive level playing field.
Since derbys wages are potentially already to high, if in League One it would mean bringing in new players could be very difficult.
Plus I thought I read that Rooney wouldn't stay at Derby if they are relegated.
When I look at League bias it's very clear that the it exists in the championship, even without derbys transfer embargo, the clubs only allowed to spend a set amount on wages and transfers but those clubs relegated from the Premier league have Premier league quality players plus they get massive parachute payments over 3 years meaning they can be promoted very quickly.
So clubs without the luxury of parachute payments are hamstrung in terms of ability to compete.
 

Ashley ran Newcastle like a business, which could benefit their new owners, who can reportedly spend up to £200 million on transfers without triggering financial fair play issues.
He also claims he didn't sell the club to the highest bidder, but to the best party for the Magpies.
Ashley told The Sun: “I would like it known that I received a higher offer for the club than the one I accepted.
“It was from another reputable bidder who made a good case.
ashley felt the current new owners' bid was best for Newcastle United.
“Money wasn't the only concern. 
I stepped in financially to keep Newcastle United afloat.
“We made sure the bills were paid when we fell so we could rise again.
“Nobody was happier than me when we got promoted immediately.”
given the clubs current situation I think Ashley could well be the right owner for Derby.
How did our super fan Mel morris work out for the club.

Leeds in League One in 2007-08 had the best post-deduction season. Despite losing 15 points early in the season, they finished with 76 points. The on-pitch total was 91, good for promotion. Southampton, also in League One, missed the playoffs by ten points in 2009-10.  Rotherham and Bournemouth stayed in League Two despite being docked 17 points. Luton had lost 30 points, so one of them was safe. Chester were also relegated despite having a 17-point lead.  Grimsby finished below Bournemouth, while Rotherham finished 14th. In 2018-19, Birmingham survived nine points loss due to profitability and sustainability issues.  That all came from clubs that were not in administration at the start of the season is bad news for Derby.  The record for clubs going bankrupt in a season is less rosy. Crystal Palace went into administration in 2009-10 and lost ten points in January. Despite having to sell key players like future European champion José Fonte and future Premier League winner Victor Moses, Palace survived after a last-day draw at Sheffield Wednesday, who were relegated.Wednesday finished two points ahead of Palace.  They would have been 13th without the deduction.

Leeds in League One in 2007-08 had the best post-deduction season. Despite losing 15 points early in the season, they finished with 76 points. The on-pitch total was 91, good for promotion. Southampton, also in League One, missed the playoffs by ten points in 2009-10.  Rotherham and Bournemouth stayed in League Two despite being docked 17 points. Luton had lost 30 points, so one of them was safe. Chester were also relegated despite having a 17-point lead.  Grimsby finished below Bournemouth, while Rotherham finished 14th. In 2018-19, Birmingham survived nine points loss due to profitability and sustainability issues.  That all came from clubs that were not in administration at the start of the season is bad news for Derby.  The record for clubs going bankrupt in a season is less rosy. Crystal Palace went into administration in 2009-10 and lost ten points in January. Despite having to sell key players like future European champion José Fonte and future Premier League winner Victor Moses, Palace survived after a last-day draw at Sheffield Wednesday, who were relegated.Wednesday finished two points ahead of Palace.  They would have been 13th without the deduction.

Bbc: Derby County owe £15m to MSD Holdings, it has been confirmed by the US investment group.
That's a relief, I thought it was 30 million.
With Arsenal postponing the bielik debt, Is the biggest debt the hmrc one?
If Derby actually owned the ground and training academy plus if they don't get a further 9 points deducted by the efl, then I see light at the end of the tunnel.
I'd the club can bought for a significantly reduced amount, then I'm guessing buyers are interested.
 

Bbc: Derby County owe £15m to MSD Holdings, it has been confirmed by the US investment group.
That's a relief, I thought it was 30 million.
With Arsenal postponing the bielik debt, Is the biggest debt the hmrc one?
If Derby actually owned the ground and training academy plus if they don't get a further 9 points deducted by the efl, then I see light at the end of the tunnel.
I'd the club can bought for a significantly reduced amount, then I'm guessing buyers are interested.
 

"Saturday: WR “I want to bring dignity back to Derby”
Sunday: WR gets farted on by two girls in underwear and calls police after falling asleep
Monday: Puts one of the players out for twelve weeks with an ankle injury during training ground incident."

"Saturday: WR “I want to bring dignity back to Derby”
Sunday: WR gets farted on by two girls in underwear and calls police after falling asleep
Monday: Puts one of the players out for twelve weeks with an ankle injury during training ground incident."

Why is Rooney to blame for any of the mess we are in....??? There is only one person to blame and it certainly is not him.
From what I am seeing (and im not alone in this view) Wayne is coming out of all this with his head held high and the respect of the fans, the general public and the players.
Viva Wazza, the leader of the revolution.

There's also circa 2.5 million owed to Keough.

It's rumoured pride Park would cost 81 mullion to buy.
If I were the new owner I'd seek to ground share for a while, probably look at Notts county ground share as that's an 18000 seater stadium.
I would not look to buy back pride Park.
I would consider building a new ground some where around Derby.
Chesterfields 10000 seater Proact Stadium cost around 13 million, I thought it a decent stadium for a new ground.
So a 30000 seater stadium could cost 40 to 45 million.
Half the amount required to buy back pride Park.
 

With the club in its current state would you refuse to move to a more stable environment, where your guaranteed to be paid

It's rumoured pride Park would cost 81 mullion to buy.
If I were the new owner I'd seek to ground share for a while, probably look at Notts county ground share as that's an 18000 seater stadium.
I would not look to buy back pride Park.
I would consider building a new ground some where around Derby.
Chesterfields 10000 seater Proact Stadium cost around 13 million, I thought it a decent stadium for a new ground.
So a 30000 seater stadium could cost 40 to 45 million.
Half the amount required to buy back pride Park.
 

It's rumoured pride Park would cost 81 mullion to buy.
If I were the new owner I'd seek to ground share for a while, probably look at Notts county ground share as that's an 18000 seater stadium.
I would not look to buy back pride Park.
I would consider building a new ground some where around Derby.
Chesterfields 10000 seater Proact Stadium cost around 13 million, I thought it a decent stadium for a new ground.
So a 30000 seater stadium could cost 40 to 45 million.
Half the amount required to buy back pride Park.
 

people hate maguire here because he tells us the truth which we don't want to hear

I don’t really understand Wycombe’s position.
Where is the injustice? It all seems rather desperate and lacking in substance.
Wycombe didn’t get enough points to stay up and we also had a better head-to-head record against them.
They didn’t do what they needed to do on the pitch. What we are being punished for is historical, and from a time when Wycombe were nowhere near the Championship.
You can look at as many spreadsheets as you want, but those facts will always remain.

Are you trying to be the biggest troll on the board?

I wasn't impressed with Rooney last season.
This season I think he's one of the very bright lights at Derby.
He could easily walk away but he's committed to managing the club.
He's drawing or winning a number of games.
I'm glad he's managing the club

I wasn't impressed with Rooney last season.
This season I think he's one of the very bright lights at Derby.
He could easily walk away but he's committed to managing the club.
He's drawing or winning a number of games.
I'm glad he's managing the club

I wasn't impressed with Rooney last season.
This season I think he's one of the very bright lights at Derby.
He could easily walk away but he's committed to managing the club.
He's drawing or winning a number of games.
I'm glad he's managing the club

I wasn't impressed with Rooney last season.
This season I think he's one of the very bright lights at Derby.
He could easily walk away but he's committed to managing the club.
He's drawing or winning a number of games.
I'm glad he's managing the club

I wasn't impressed with Rooney last season.
This season I think he's one of the very bright lights at Derby.
He could easily walk away but he's committed to managing the club.
He's drawing or winning a number of games.
I'm glad he's managing the club

I wasn't impressed with Rooney last season.
This season I think he's one of the very bright lights at Derby.
He could easily walk away but he's committed to managing the club.
He's drawing or winning a number of games.
I'm glad he's managing the club

I wasn't impressed with Rooney last season.
This season I think he's one of the very bright lights at Derby.
He could easily walk away but he's committed to managing the club.
He's drawing or winning a number of games.
I'm glad he's managing the club