ossieram

On holiday near the Norfolk broads with Internet coverage worse than any dial up I ever had. 

I'm relying on you reprobates to keep me up to date with all the goings on.

20 hours ago, David said:

I just want to apologise for the delay, my absence, my handling of the situation and try to explain what has happened.

The meeting on Wednesday was scheduled to end at 8.45pm, my last train home was 9.33pm, I slipped out just after 9pm as I didn’t have clothes, medication, toiletries with me as I wasn’t planning on staying overnight.

When the meeting had finished, an agreement was made where one statement would be written and signed off by all groups, this is the first time anything like this had been agreed, I was under the impression we would be allowed to report back as normal.

Being completely unaware of this, whilst waiting for my train I saw a conversation take place on my Twitter timeline discussing the meeting minutes, when would they be out.

I replied, that the meeting minutes were not taken and we would be sharing the information ourselves, which as I say I was under the impression would be allowed, why else attend? I thought I was being helpful.

Now I can see on reflection I was clearly naive in not appreciating the number of fans waiting online for what was said at the meeting, would see the tweet whilst was part of a conversation, which was also public and could be seen and shared by others. The tweet blew up online having been retweeted, I’m not exaggerating when I say maybe hundred or more replies, some abusive to the point where I had to turn notifications off as my phone was freezing with as I came back into an area with phone signal.

On the forum I did pre warn members not to expect anything Wednesday evening, the minutes can sometimes take a few days to a couple of weeks before being released. I was going with the intention of asking the club if the minutes could be released within 24 hours or that we could release the information immediately. Obviously once we was told the minutes would not be taken all that went out the window and believed we was free to report back immediately, and that was the plan.

Again, I was clearly naive to the fact fans on Twitter would not be aware of this, so when I wasn’t replying to all the tweets with thumbs up or down if it’s good news, or are we going to have a club next week the levels of abuse increased, despite my plea for being understanding I wasn’t in the position to do so.

With my write up, I had no intention of adding any personal opinion, it would be just what was said and allow you all to read and take it as you will.

As you will be well aware, all fans see things differently and I didn’t want to raise any expectations or disappoint fans, then receive more abuse as it wasn’t what they were expecting.

I put myself in this situation through naivety, but I don’t accept that the abuse was warranted at all, I have removed the twitter account from my devices and will no longer be active on that account, opting now for a private account as I have no interest in twitter fame.

I would seriously urge anyone that did send me abusive tweets to have a think how they talk to people online and their demands, if this is this what celebrities have to deal with on a daily basis, I’m glad I’m just a nobody!

Punjabi Rams, who I honestly can’t thank enough stepped in and put some tweets out from their account to give some information in my defence. You guys are awesome, didn’t need to do that but again, I honestly can’t thank you enough. Quick plug www.punjabirams.co.uk, @PunjabiRams on Twitter, go give them a follow if you are on there.

On the train home I started to do the write up on my notes app, realising I need to get this out asap, first thing to defuse the situation I felt I had created.

Thursday morning, as I was consulting my notes and finishing off the write up, there was a few things I wanted to fact check with the club were totally accurate, there has been times where things have been misheard in the past (Boycie ahem) and needed correcting, I didn’t want this to happen. We’re human, mistakes can happen, I believed I had time to ensure there were none.

I decided, and this was not requested by the club but to send my write up to them, asking if they could read it over and everything I had written was totally accurate, leaving ??? <—— fact checks where I was a little cautious over.

They agreed and I again naively yet again assumed that this would be back with me in a few hours……despite the previous night listening to just how busy they have been.

Now whilst I understand and totally agree that this meeting is important, the club staff are as I’m sure you can imagine really busy, now I need to really stress here that this is in no way the fault of the club, this is on me 100%.

No tweet, no forum post, none of this situation exists.

Meanwhile The Supporters Charter Group are scratching their heads as to why I’ve gone it alone, I can only apologise to them also, as I say I was under the impression that we would all be reporting back ourselves which I have explained privately with them.

A single statement isn’t something I would have been personally happy with but that is what was agreed in my absence.

I haven’t felt comfortable coming back on the forum if I'm honest, ignoring the fact I insinuated what was said at the meeting would be out Thursday on the forum, I feel like I have let you all down and for that I’m sorry.

Just to add, this apology wasn’t asked for, it's something I feel is owed to you all.

Should someone have gone that could have stayed all evening? Ideally yes, although Paul (Boycie) was unavailable to attend. Since the formation of 2017 it has only been either myself or Paul that has attended, I didn’t feel it would be right to send someone new which in hindsight was the correct call, they may have also not been able to attend until the end of what I’m led to believe turned out to be almost a 4 hour long meeting, putting themselves unwittingly into a similar situation I have.

I know you are all frustrated, the accusations of attention seeking, sitting on information, teasing, trying to get more views, followers etc. and even censorship on the forum are simply not true, they come from people that do not know me or how the forum is run at all, which is disappointing hearing it said by members that have been on the forum for a number of years now.

Finally, I do want to say thank you to those who have sent supportive texts, PM’s, DM’s, tweets you name it over the last few days, despite asking to be given time, it’s you who I put the hours in for, I will learn from this and work on handling things better in the future.

I would also like to thank the moderators who have been trying their best to keep on top of the situation, without them this forum would have crashed and burned over the last few days so please be respectful to them, even if at times you do not agree with decisions they have made. 

David

 

No apology needed. 

You attended, things happened after you left, not your fault.

Let's all get on with supporting the team.

7 hours ago, Philmycock said:

Still mixing your A's and I's then.

14 hours ago, angieram said:

Any of you lot on here? 

 

3rd row down on the far left. My grandson in the sky blue hoodie on my right (left on the picture)

Great support in the South stand today from the beginning to the end. 

One person started to sing " Mel Morris get out of our club" but he was shouted down and told to get out himself if he couldn't turn up and back the team.

Official attendance will be hard to gauge because of the amount being let in through the big gate because it wouldn't scan their phone. 

No matter who's picture was put up, there will always be people not happy. 

Personally I would have had Boulton instead of Shilton. 

8 hours ago, jimtastic56 said:

It was great to be back in the ground last night . But if we are going to win games we will need much better numbers supporting. About 6,000 at a guess. Come on lads get out your armchairs!

I was in my caravan armchair on holiday, but will make sure to return intime for Huddersfield. 

I wondered why I didn't come on here as often as I used to, then I read this and my question was answered. 

No 2nd club, I hate them all.

1 hour ago, Philmycock said:

Don't think they'll have an XXXXXXXXXL version for you mate

Do they have them with zip up necks to help get them over big conks?

It's ok. 

23 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said:

Also some new boarding outside the South Stand

Have they taken Cocu off the West stand yet?

16 hours ago, Sheikh n Bake said:

The sponsor is absolutely howling. I really wish Derby wouldn't advertise betting companies.

I don't care who the sponsor is as long as they put a decent amount of money into the club. 

Are Unibet owned by the same group that own 32Red?

11 hours ago, Philmycock said:

Your witch-hunt of my club is tiresome, let's hope you're whiter than white, because I will endeavour to investigate your business life, your private life, your personal life, coming for you scally! ? 

If anyone can sniff out any wrong doings, you're the man Snoz.

1 hour ago, loweman2 said:

I posted some of these yesterday on the Baseball Ground memories post but I think that they warrant a post of their own for the fans who don’t live around Derby or those who do who have never revisited the old BBG area, the surrounding roads etc and may have wondered what it now looks like.

The names are all the same but the view is very different.

I took a walk around, first time i had done it, I could feel the hairs on my neck start buzzing as I walked down Cambridge Street, it has such an image etched in my memory of the floodlights at the Osmaston End and the welcome to the Baseball Ground sign, Shaftesbury Crescent columbo St, Vulcan St, the names forever associated with those walks to the ground, the smells of beer and fags from the pubs along the way that filled the air, the locals stood on their doorsteps to protect their windows, the scuffles that would break out, the police horses being used to skilfully control the crowd, the chants that would echo around the close knit roads, all of those memories of a time gone past are held in these photos.

Did you post these on the lost football grounds group on Facebook?

This obviously happened during lock down. Have the twitterati slagged him off yet and said he got what he deserved for breaking the rules?

Once a Ram, Always a Ram should only ever apply to fans. Any player, coach, manager worth their salt should always give their all for whoever is paying the wages. People like Sibley will always be fans  but don't expect him not to try and score if he ever plays against us. 

53 minutes ago, DavesaRam said:

The sad thing is the the EFL seem to be punishing us anyway because of all these colossal delays in declaring the results of the enquiry, appeal, panel, etc, which means we have been under transfer embargo several times already. And if this latest outcome isn't made before the transfer window shuts we will have been well and truly punished because we already don't have a squad because of all the out of contract players and all the loan players going back, and us having no time to replace them. We really struggled last season with what passed for a full squad. How can we compete when we could easily have hardly any players available?

Come on EFL, get your finger out.

Totally agree. 

You can't tell me that the EFL hadn't already discussed the punishment in the case of winning the appeal. 

2 hours ago, leamram said:

I made these for my fm game,should of done white trim on the home 

Can we have the chevrons pointing up. League 1 is in the direction they are pointing. 

1 minute ago, BaaLocks said:

Look, I'm not saying I want the bloke out or even that he has right wing views. All I am saying is that, in general, I was often aghast to see how quickly Man City fans just blindly ignored Shinawatra's ill doings just because he threw some money at the club. I'm not saying, repeat I'm not saying, Alonso is that guy but I am saying it wouldn't sit comfortably with me if any owner of Derby had extreme political views (tbh - in pretty much any direction).

As for it being a keeper, depends what his views were - if he thought ginger birds stunk of wee then I probably couldn't get too exercised over it, if he thought selling arms to Yemen was a good thing I might be a little more animated.

What have you got against armless Yemenis?

Can someone let me know if this bloke is a skint racist sexist homophobe, or someone we should be concerned about?

Get sick of the camera concentrating on either someone on the touchline or a player that is nowhere near the action when the ball is in play.

Is it a freebie for ST holders tonight? I've logged on and it hasn't asked for payment.

Opps no it isn't, I've had to cough up.

1 hour ago, richinspain said:

Ley's Foundry smelt of Heaven!

Leys, Brassy Smiths and Royces foundry gave Graham st and Cotton lane it's own aroma when we were kids.