popside72 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 We were poor last night, but we were poor last season up to the Fleetwood home game. It has been a lacklustre pre season. Chesterfield will have their tails up on Tuesday, and Mboro are a decent outfit on Sat, so the treadmill is on full already. Warne is going to have to get lucky in the transfer Window. i do not think that last season's squad is coachable into a decent Champ outfit. Great travelling support as usual. r_wilcockson, Anag Ram, Steve How Hard? and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Ram Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 We were defensively shocking and the warning signs were there all to see in the friendlies.Blackburn we not great and I thought we could of got something from the game when it went 1 all. When we were chasing the game, I would of rolled the dice and give Dajaune Brown 15 minutes to at least have a go. r_wilcockson and David Graham Brown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 6 minutes ago, popside72 said: We were poor last night, but we were poor last season up to the Fleetwood home game. It has been a lacklustre pre season. Chesterfield will have their tails up on Tuesday, and Mboro are a decent outfit on Sat, so the treadmill is on full already. Warne is going to have to get lucky in the transfer Window. i do not think that last season's squad is coachable into a decent Champ outfit. Great travelling support as usual. That really came across on TV. Congratulations to all who attended Crewton and HorsforthRam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 9 hours ago, Guest said: So the problem with yourself is that it is never clear if you are sincere or taking the xxxx It ends up that you actually have no credibility or character , a kind of fictional nobody who patrols a very small and finite land, sending barbs and bombs in equal measure but who never has the confidence in themselves to actually make an opinion on anything This is so close to what my head teacher wrote when I left secondary school. Spooky. I find it genuinely humorous that I am being critiqued by a fictional nobody. Comrade 86, Crewton, ariotofmyown and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarsdenRam Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, FlyBritishMidland said: I thought we looked a bit like a rabbit in the headlights until they scored. Then we started to get involved. We played well the 1st 20mins of the 2nd half and deservedly equalised. Play like that and we’ll be fine. Then it all went a bit pear shaped. Very good summary. I can only hope this provides some 'shock therapy' at least until reinforcements arrive. We need to able to find high 40s points somehow to be safe... FlyBritishMidland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 8 minutes ago, i-Ram said: This is so close to what my head teacher wrote when I left secondary school. Spooky. I find it genuinely humorous that I am being critiqued by a fictional nobody. A "fictional nobody" Hhmmm, A wizard would suffice, He's TerryH in some posts and a Guest in others...now that's Wizardry 🤷♂️ David Graham Brown and i-Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 I'm oddly not too downhearted after that game. We looked nervous the first 20 but grew into the game. We then conceded a stupid goal but took it on the chin and for a good 40 minutes looked like the better outfit. We get the equaliser and then our positional play goes out the window. Not sure if they were overexcited and wanted to press to find the winner but we made it too easy for them to get the second and the third. Thought our midfield looked tidy on the ball even if at times it took them too long to find the right pass. Ozoh looks like a beast and really liked his performance but he should be playing alongside Adams acting as an additional shield. Defensively we need a few extra bodies and another one in the forward areas but there is time to fix that. Overall, i think if we play that game in September with a bit more nouse about us we win it. That's why I'm optimistic! Sufferingfool, Rammy03, ariotofmyown and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mrso Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Thought the game showed the gulf between the divisions. Blackburn were way better than anyone in last year's League 1. I suspect they won't be in the relegation fight if they can play like that consistently. We need to step up rapidly, but I don't think that game was a season write-off. EtoileSportiveDeDerby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN747 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 My assessment not that it’s worth anything… We know we need new keeper, full back , centre back , winger and striker… Those on the fringes or who struggled last season such as Vickers , Elder , Barks , Fornah sadly won’t be good enough in a weak squad , although I thought Barks did ok - I like them all but it’s just the reality We got sliced apart a number of times last season , ala Lincoln , Shrews , but thankfully L1 teams can’t finish , this year you get punished. We need to learn to make tactical fouls higher up the pitch to stop goals on the break , this was a problem last season , so will be even more now… We probably need to play 5 or 6 at the back away from home to scrape some points on the board… We need to refind home form we have had in the past otherwise we are in doodoo On a positive we won the singing match 37-1 . Blackburn fans are a disgrace, empty seats everywhere and you could just about hear them at 4-1 Well done Rams fans, showing the world that 99.9% of football fans are normal people who don’t have a problem with anyone despite what some people label and scaremonger us as… 1967Ram, Miggins, HorsforthRam and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 10 hours ago, one_chop said: Doomed, these tactics will keep us in the bottom 3. Missed your positivity one_chop 👍 Crewton and ariotofmyown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 We looked a shambles in our preseason matches but last night, during the second half, we began to look like a decent side. The problem we have is we need to be able to take our chances and we did create a few last night. We need someone to stick the ball in the net and a little bit more mobility in our back four. Last nights defeat is not the end of the world, it just feels like it 😃 r_wilcockson and David Graham Brown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimaTango Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 I’m also not too disheartened by that performance. Up until the 72nd minute we were still in it, and the likelier team to score. Of course it’s a former player of ours to score against us too 😂 I think what it did show some of our players is the difference between league one and the champ. Simply can’t get away with some of the things we got away with last season. We are also absolutely crying out for a striker. CBT would have suited that system yesterday and it’s a shame he couldn’t get on the pitch. Going to be a long season, but I think fans need to realise we aren’t going to win more than we lose! We’re definitely going to lose more than we win. r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 6 hours ago, Matchday Fred said: So pre-season actually was a good indicator of where we are after all, conceding another 4 goals. You have to be ready for game 1, not knowingly go into the first half dozen games undercooked. Cashin never going to be good enough at this level, nor Bradley, nor Tommo, Fornah, Barks.. I’d be tempted to,play Nelson and Nyambe at centre half with Fozz at LB, but 5 at the back is not the right answer. We need a keeper, left back, centre half, winger, striker rapidly. Waiting until end Sept not good enough. Yes there will be a transition period as we get used to the pace and quality at a higher level. But there are too many big holes in the squad, tough to fill over one summer. Get the impression the coaching needs to be more classroom and ball, less cone and resistance band. We need to be more progressive and more comfortable when pressed in possession. No sign of coached development there, with all the emphasis apparently on miles in legs. With season ticket sales, we can’t be far off the budgets of other clubs. Not clear why we can’t get the right players. We have all that lovely new Sky money, but as stated before that has already been bid out with players and agents wising up to the new money and asking for more. Same supply, additional demand, higher prices. Simple economics. Clowes needs to decide if he is prepared to compete at this level, whether he can afford it, whether Bhobats computer is just another complicating factor in recruitment (especially if it is always saying NO), or does he seek additional investment ? We’re all grateful for what he did, but time stands still for no man. For me the academy doesn’t deliver. Bhobat could look at the kids in the academy, whack their stats into his computer, and it will tell him that very few have the physical attributes to be top players. Without new investment, and with PSR constraints (which I don’t believe are the real constraints at the moment), the only way forward is either the academy delivering a stream of Champ ready players, or taking a risk on transfer fees for younger players who could be sold on at a profit. Lots of thinking to be done, and risks to be taken. If you don’t have risk, youre not in business. You make a lot of good points Fred. Not sure I agree with them all, but again, last night, the bit I have put in bold was the most apparent weakness in our set-up. Even with a few better players, I don’t think Warne and Barker are good enough technically or tactically to push us on this season. Their strengths though might just keep us in this league come seasons end. For many that will be enough, and in truth whilst I gain little enjoyment from paying for and watching Warneball, staying up and consolidating our position in the Championship this season is the most important thing. David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Defensively we were all over the shop last night, got to be down to opening night nerves. We gave up space, let runners go, charged out leaving gaping holes behind us. Just a bad night at the office. We looked a decent outfit for a good part of the game but were massacred on the transition. 3 man midfield was tidy, Kenzo looks like a player but fatigued early and drifted out of the game. If we’re only going to play 1 holder then nothing can get past Ozoh, travis moves past him for the opener like he isn’t there. Elder I thought had his most competent performance for us, Wilson is not a rb but not sure he’s good enough to play further forward either in this league. Cashin looks so out of kilter it’s unreal, looked far too amped up pre match and that showed in his performance. At 1-1 they brought on 3 forwards 1 of whom was the leading scorer in the champ last season and we’d just brought on 34 year old James Collins. It is going to be a tough season there’s no doubt about that, 3 weeks to bulk the squad up, prepare for a relegation battle as it’s on its way but we can be better than 3 other teams. David Graham Brown, Anag Ram, r_wilcockson and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorsforthRam Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 As another poster said, great that the match passed off without any incident in the crowd, inside or outside the ground. Relaxed policing, relaxed fans in the pubs, friendly. I deleted twitter/X a week ago. Got to say, well well worth it!! Ramarena, ariotofmyown, i-Ram and 3 others 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 13 minutes ago, i-Ram said: You make a lot of good points Fred. Not sure I agree with them all, but again, last night, the bit I have put in bold was the most apparent weakness in our set-up. Even with a few better players, I don’t think Warne and Barker are good enough technically or tactically to push us on this season. Their strengths though might just keep us in this league come seasons end. For many that will be enough, and in truth whilst I gain little enjoyment from paying for and watching Warneball, staying up and consolidating our position in the Championship this season is the most important thing. This. Agree with every word. David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBX1985 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 7 hours ago, Gladys_was_the_Greatest said: Not a great start, but not really all that surprising. We are a new team and not the finished article. We all knew, in our hearts , this was going to be a tough division to come back to. Please let’s wait until the end of October before we get the knives out. Give it 10-12 games before we start the dog hanging. Last season was a great achievement but on this forum it was so toxic with people being really unpleasant. This is crazy, we all support the same club, have the same desire to see the Rams succeed. Hopefully by the end of the window we will have some extra experience, fire power and a goal keeper. If it’s not working after ten or twelve games then I imagine Mr Clowes will call time. I think a lot of wise heads knew we were going to lose tonight, we just are not ready yet. Hopefully we will be soon. Keep the faith etc. I like this but the 10 - 12 games thing is a red herring. What Clowes is going to want to know is what plans PW would have to fix things. You only would sack a manager in the season if there is an issue and you do not have a plan to overcome it (that appears reasonable). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 11 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: Oh and for anyone advocating we give Warne time no matter what the results are, he's been relegated from this division every time he's had a full season in it, so how long do we give him before a decision has to be made? Not 1 match!!! Sufferingfool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 4 minutes ago, BramcoteRam84 said: Not 1 match!!! As I've pointed out multiple times now, I'm not advocating to do it now, but given Warne's track record at this level how long should he get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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