simmoram1995 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Oh dear I see the trees might have to find a scapegoat! https://theathletic.com/5201666/2024/01/14/nottingham-forest-everton-ffp/?amp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TomTom92 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Only Forest could be deducted points in a season where another team has been hit with a double deduction and 2 out of the 3 promoted teams are useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 15 minutes ago, TomTom92 said: Only Forest could be deducted points in a season where another team has been hit with a double deduction and 2 out of the 3 promoted teams are useless. I read something about 16 points based on the likes amount they’ve gone over by. Obviously, that could be way off, but if it is, that would put them on 4 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Srg said: I read something about 16 points based on the likes amount they’ve gone over by. Obviously, that could be way off, but if it is, that would put them on 4 points. Shame there’s not a fingers crossed reaction on here. Wignall12 and MarsdenRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Can anyone explain why Manchester City are avoiding answering their 115 charges before the rule changes in August, whilst Forest and Everton must answer them now? 115 charges which has dragged on for how long? I want to sit here and take the piss out of Forest as nature intended, however it's just wrong how Manchester City are continuing and picking up silverware whilst others are having the book thrown at them. RadioactiveWaste, sheeponacid, richinspain and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, David said: Can anyone explain why Manchester City are avoiding answering their 115 charges before the rule changes in August, whilst Forest and Everton must answer them now? 115 charges which has dragged on for how long? I want to sit here and take the piss out of Forest as nature intended, however it's just wrong how Manchester City are continuing and picking up silverware whilst others are having the book thrown at them. Zero idea, but maybe because it’s so severe they’re thinking about not just retroactive action but future sanctions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, David said: Can anyone explain why Manchester City are avoiding answering their 115 charges before the rule changes in August, whilst Forest and Everton must answer them now? 115 charges which has dragged on for how long? I want to sit here and take the piss out of Forest as nature intended, however it's just wrong how Manchester City are continuing and picking up silverware whilst others are having the book thrown at them. Because P&S isnt really about the integrity of football, its about trying to retain the status quo and stopping anyone from breaking the monopoly that is raking in so much cash for the authorities. Stive Pesley, sheeponacid, Day and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 31 minutes ago, David said: Can anyone explain why Manchester City are avoiding answering their 115 charges before the rule changes in August, whilst Forest and Everton must answer them now? 115 charges which has dragged on for how long? I want to sit here and take the piss out of Forest as nature intended, however it's just wrong how Manchester City are continuing and picking up silverware whilst others are having the book thrown at them. I agree with this completely. The excuse is that because there’s so many charges it’ll take longer to come to a conclusion. When judgement day comes I’ll be intrigued by the punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambalin Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 40 minutes ago, TomTom92 said: Shame there’s not a fingers crossed reaction on here. MarsdenRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 8 minutes ago, TomTom92 said: I agree with this completely. The excuse is that because there’s so many charges it’ll take longer to come to a conclusion. When judgement day comes I’ll be intrigued by the punishment. £60 fine or £30 if paid within 28 days. i-Ram, RadioactiveWaste, Day and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 55 minutes ago, David said: Can anyone explain why Manchester City are avoiding answering their 115 charges before the rule changes in August, whilst Forest and Everton must answer them now? 115 charges which has dragged on for how long? I want to sit here and take the piss out of Forest as nature intended, however it's just wrong how Manchester City are continuing and picking up silverware whilst others are having the book thrown at them. My understanding is that City charges hanh on not disclosing certain information, therefore it's more difficult to prove. In addition, the time frame is different, so it's not as clear as what the other two are potentially being charged with. The rule for me doesn't work, how can teams compete if they aren't on a level playing field in the first instance. Forest came up unexpectedly and threw money at it to stay in the league against teams that had a better financial structure for the previous 2 season's and therefore allowed to spend more, how is that fair play ? That said the rules are there, other played by them, so relegate them to league 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Quote the league have identified May 24 as a backstop date for any appeal which raises the prospect of clubs completing their league season on May 19 while not knowing their final league position or even what division they may be playing in for the following campaign. As if VAR wasn't bad enough - leaving you unable to celebrate a goal properly - now we won't even be able to celebrate their relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Stive Pesley said: As if VAR wasn't bad enough - leaving you unable to celebrate a goal properly - now we won't even be able to celebrate their relegation You speak for yourself - I'll sink a few when they get their just deserts..... Edited January 15 by Gaspode Stive Pesley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Everton and Nottingham Forest expect to be told on Monday that they have breached the Premier League's profit and sustainability rules for the three-year cycle up to June 2023. (The Athletic - subscription required) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 It will be hugely disappointing if Forest only get docked 6 points - they will be able to count that on one hand. Wignall12 and Elwood P Dowd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12962789/Everton-Nottingham-Forest-braced-charges-breaking-Premier-League-spending-rules-Toffees-risk-punishment-10-point-deduction-earlier-season.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Because P&S isnt really about the integrity of football, its about trying to retain the status quo and stopping anyone from breaking the monopoly that is raking in so much cash for the authorities. True. Part of me wishes they all just buggered off to the Super League now, would English football recover from the loss of those clubs? In time I’m sure. Makes no sense that a clubs revenue whilst in the Championship is used to form sustainability rules in the league above where the wealth is greater minimising their ability to compete. That one charge has the potential to relegate meanwhile a club at the other end has 115 hanging over them and as I say, allowed to continue picking up silverware. It’s Forest, so I’ll laugh, just as they did when the EFL rewrote the rules punishing us retrospectively, yet we all know it stinks and about time they scrapped this nonsense in favour of a more fair system that would allow clubs to all compete on a level playing field. Ilkestonian and GB SPORTS 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Crewton, RadioactiveWaste, Mucker1884 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, David said: Can anyone explain why Manchester City are avoiding answering their 115 charges before the rule changes in August, whilst Forest and Everton must answer them now? 115 charges which has dragged on for how long? I want to sit here and take the piss out of Forest as nature intended, however it's just wrong how Manchester City are continuing and picking up silverware whilst others are having the book thrown at them. I'd imagine it's at least partially to do with the fact that it's a lot harder to evidence and build a case for 115 charges than one or two, and when you factor in that the accused party is doing everything they can to drag out each individual charge then it could take another few years to get to the bottom of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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