Sibley too good!

[Carl Sagan]

8 hours ago, Srg said:

I love Sibley as much as anyone, but he couldn’t do CBT’s role. Sibley runs in treacle, which is frankly why he hasn’t hit the heights we thought he might when he broke through. 

I find posts like this just weird. One of Sibley's many strengths is his ability to run with the ball at his feet, at speed, leaving midfielders of defenders in his wake. He's absolutely no slouch. We are a team whose instructions are to bypass central midfield and play the ball wide at the earliest possible opportunity. If we were prepared to vary our approach and played Sibbo in midfield, then we'd have the threat from the wings and also the threat from the centre.

[Srg]

1 hour ago, Carl Sagan said:

I find posts like this just weird. One of Sibley's many strengths is his ability to run with the ball at his feet, at speed, leaving midfielders of defenders in his wake. He's absolutely no slouch. We are a team whose instructions are to bypass central midfield and play the ball wide at the earliest possible opportunity. If we were prepared to vary our approach and played Sibbo in midfield, then we'd have the threat from the wings and also the threat from the centre.

Dont confuse the ability to drop a shoulder and beat a man with the ability to sprint. He’s too slow to be a winger, and that’s fine because he isn’t one (the original point was he couldn’t do what CBT can do). He suits Wing Back well. 

[Boycie]

Can anyone remember Korey Smith as a full back?

[RoyMac5]

8 hours ago, Boycie said:

Can anyone remember Korey Smith as a full back?

Yes. Why?

[RoyMac5]

8 hours ago, Srg said:

Dont confuse the ability to drop a shoulder and beat a man with the ability to sprint. He’s too slow to be a winger, and that’s fine because he isn’t one (the original point was he couldn’t do what CBT can do). He suits Wing Back well. 

It's not only wingers that play as forward players. There's more to attacking play than running quickly with the ball. Although our 'tactics' are limited ATM. So not literally a like for like which I didn't mean, sorry for the confusion.

 

Edited April 15 by RoyMac5

[TheHomunculusLives]

For whatever reason, at this stage Sibley hasn't fulfilled the potential he showed as a teenager, and I wonder if his future is as a utility player who can do a good job at wing back and in attacking midfield, including chipping in with the occasional important goal.

[Magicman]

9 minutes ago, TheHomunculusLives said:

For whatever reason, at this stage Sibley hasn't fulfilled the potential he showed as a teenager, and I wonder if his future is as a utility player who can do a good job at wing back and in attacking midfield, including chipping in with the occasional important goal.

He is not good enough to play no 10 role or fast enough to be a winger but had adapted well to LWB and secured a place on his merit. 

[Boycie]

13 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

Yes. Why?

Cus he wasn’t very good in my opinion but has reverted to his normal midfield role and has been great.

I guess I’m saying Sibbers isn’t playing in his preferred position and thus not having the chance to impress and build his worth in an AM position duck.

[RoyMac5]

3 minutes ago, Boycie said:

Cus he wasn’t very good in my opinion but has reverted to his normal midfield role and has been great.

I guess I’m saying Sibbers isn’t playing in his preferred position and thus not having the chance to impress and build his worth in an AM position duck.

Gotcha. I hope we get chance to find out. 

[jimtastic56]

On 15/04/2024 at 09:24, TheHomunculusLives said:

For whatever reason, at this stage Sibley hasn't fulfilled the potential he showed as a teenager, and I wonder if his future is as a utility player who can do a good job at wing back and in attacking midfield, including chipping in with the occasional important goal.

Looking back , Sibley has divided opinion over the season . Since his hat-trick V Millwall , I have been a fan of his . But I now have to admit , that even more than Max Bird , a change of scenery would be good for him .

[kevinhectoring]

On 14/04/2024 at 21:58, Srg said:

Dont confuse the ability to drop a shoulder and beat a man with the ability to sprint. He’s too slow to be a winger, and that’s fine because he isn’t one (the original point was he couldn’t do what CBT can do). He suits Wing Back well. 

It’s weird. I think you’re right but Warne referred to him as a speed merchant. 

[Loughborough Ram]

Sibley is a good wing back but he has to accept mentally, that this is his best position.

In league 1 he can cope on raw ability but in the Championship he will have to work his bo**ocks off and improve in all aspects. He has all of the necessary tools, but he has to believe that it's his future.

I hope he does because, as a 10, his future will never be above league 1 and in my opinion, probably lower than that.

[superfit]

33 minutes ago, Loughborough Ram said:

Sibley is a good wing back but he has to accept mentally, that this is his best position.

In league 1 he can cope on raw ability but in the Championship he will have to work his bo**ocks off and improve in all aspects. He has all of the necessary tools, but he has to believe that it's his future.

I hope he does because, as a 10, his future will never be above league 1 and in my opinion, probably lower than that.

Sorry but wing back is not Sibley’s best position. He did a job for us last season-credit to him for being a good lad and team player. 
 

But having watched a fair few championship games last season the wide players are stronger quicker and good with the ball at their feet. Much better standard of football than the last time we where in the championship. I’m afraid Sibley would be rinsed most weeks at wing back. 
 

He’s a 10 and needs a team that’s going to play to his strengths and a manager that’s going to tell him he’s going to play every week through the ups and downs then we may see the player that came through the ranks with so much potential. That could be back in L.1 

Big decision for lad. 

[Loughborough Ram]

4 minutes ago, superfit said:

Sorry but wing back is not Sibley’s best position. He did a job for us last season-credit to him for being a good lad and team player. 
 

But having watched a fair few championship games last season the wide players are stronger quicker and good with the ball at their feet. Much better standard of football than the last time we where in the championship. I’m afraid Sibley would be rinsed most weeks at wing back. 
 

He’s a 10 and needs a team that’s going to play to his strengths and a manager that’s going to tell him he’s going to play every week through the ups and downs then we may see the player that came through the ranks with so much potential. That could be back in L.1 

Big decision for lad. 

We'll have to agree to disagree.

I personally don't think he'll make a championship number 10 if he played 46 games in a row under Pep Guardiola.

[Dean (hick) Saunders]

55 minutes ago, Loughborough Ram said:

Sibley is a good wing back but he has to accept mentally, that this is his best position.

In league 1 he can cope on raw ability but in the Championship he will have to work his bo**ocks off and improve in all aspects. He has all of the necessary tools, but he has to believe that it's his future.

I hope he does because, as a 10, his future will never be above league 1 and in my opinion, probably lower than that.

Don’t think he can defend well enough for champ LWB on current ability. Doesn’t mean he couldn’t develop though.

[Brammie Steve]

If he had a set of wings then we know he could fly!

 

[Carl Sagan]

I feel there's a parallel universe in which Mel was never mad enough to bring in Rooney, allowing Cocu the time and space to develop a formidable team built on the academy, now competing around the top of the Premier League with Sibs as one of the great hopes of the coming England campaign in the Euros. Alas Mel had to be Mel, and Sibley who was streets ahead of Saka in the then biggest game of their lives for the young England championship, is now seemingly a bit part left wingback who the manager would rather not have played in League One. In this universe I still think there's a possible future for Sibs as a brilliant attacking midfielder, but I'm dubious it's with Paul Warne's Derby.

[Anag Ram]

10 hours ago, superfit said:

Sorry but wing back is not Sibley’s best position. He did a job for us last season-credit to him for being a good lad and team player. 
 

But having watched a fair few championship games last season the wide players are stronger quicker and good with the ball at their feet. Much better standard of football than the last time we where in the championship. I’m afraid Sibley would be rinsed most weeks at wing back. 
 

He’s a 10 and needs a team that’s going to play to his strengths and a manager that’s going to tell him he’s going to play every week through the ups and downs then we may see the player that came through the ranks with so much potential. That could be back in L.1 

Big decision for lad. 

I would respectfully disagree. LWB is the only position in which Sibley has looked competent. When he plays further forward he is unable to receive the ball under pressure. His first touch isn’t good enough and he gets outmuscled.

When he plays at LWB, he receives the ball under little pressure and has the majority of the pitch in front of him. He then has the time to pick a pass or develop momentum in a forward run.

Whether or not he can do that in the Championship remains to be seen but if he stays, I wish him all the best.