BathRam72 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 On 08/09/2023 at 21:19, Kokosnuss said: I do wish we could have tempted Tony Mowbray to lead our rebuild. Would have been the perfect manager for us. Plays good football, has a reputation for developing youth, promotes good character, has ten ti mes the tactical knowledge of Warne and has shown that he knows what it takes to lead a 'fallen giant' out of league one without massive compromises to the above. He might play good football, but don't you think he is too old, even to play for Derby? SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 10 hours ago, Sparkle said: What exactly were you expecting? The messiah. One day, it will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said: The messiah. One day, it will come. I can't get a Handel on that. YorkshireRam and MaltRam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk Thrust Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: I can't get a Handel on that. You Bach’s worse than your bite RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Gone back to Sunderland injured we’ve still got to pay part of his wage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 You couldn’t make it up. All these last minute panic signing with recent history records all injured and now we are paying for him and he will never play for us again. Well done 👏 recruitment team once again bravo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vonwright Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, Topram said: Gone back to Sunderland injured we’ve still got to pay part of his wage You'd hope we'd have some kind of insurance for this but... probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, McMuffin said: You couldn’t make it up. All these last minute panic signing with recent history records all injured and now we are paying for him and he will never play for us again. Well done 👏 recruitment team once again bravo Might be a little harsh and I'm not sure they were all "last minute panic signing"s - the John-Jules one had apparently been a while going through, likewise Fornah on his permanent deal. This one would appear on course to be one of Derby's least remarkable signings. He came, he looked pretty miserable, showed a little promise, then went home a few months early with his wages covered. Unfortunate but I don't blame the recruitment team - at least no more than I would have re George Thorne (and I don't remember complaining when we signed him on a permanent deal!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 hours ago, McMuffin said: You couldn’t make it up. All these last minute panic signing with recent history records all injured and now we are paying for him and he will never play for us again. Well done 👏 recruitment team once again bravo So not the recurring injury which has dogged him in the past, so, according to you, the recruitment team should gave foreseen this happening. You've moved on from giving Max Bird the big stick to the recruitment team so watch out Mr Clowes, it might be your turn next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: So not the recurring injury which has dogged him in the past, so, according to you, the recruitment team should gave foreseen this happening. You've moved on from giving Max Bird the big stick to the recruitment team so watch out Mr Clowes, it might be your turn next. Well if the recruitment team did a good job then max Bird wouldn’t get near the first team. Then we would probably have a chance of actually going up and not falling behind the likes of Exeter Stevenage and port vale in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, McMuffin said: Well if the recruitment team did a good job then max Bird wouldn’t get near the first team. Then we would probably have a chance of actually going up and not falling behind the likes of Exeter Stevenage and port vale in the league How many of those 3 do you expect to be above us come the end of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicman Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Frankly, won't miss him but obviously sad way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 33 minutes ago, McMuffin said: Well if the recruitment team did a good job then max Bird wouldn’t get near the first team. Then we would probably have a chance of actually going up and not falling behind the likes of Exeter Stevenage and port vale in the league It sounds like the recruitment team could recommend hiring you as coach and then Max Bird wouldn't get near the first team! Seriously, how good is it possible for a League One recruitment team to be, or do you really rate Max Bird that low? Aren't we on game 9 this weekend? Fair play to the 3 clubs you mentioned but if more than one of them is in the top half come the end of the season I will be very surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 46 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: So not the recurring injury which has dogged him in the past, so, according to you, the recruitment team should gave foreseen this happening. You've moved on from giving Max Bird the big stick to the recruitment team so watch out Mr Clowes, it might be your turn next. Don't players who are returning from long-term injuries have high risk of getting other niggly injuries whilst trying to get fit? This is big niggly mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ram Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, McMuffin said: Well if the recruitment team did a good job then max Bird wouldn’t get near the first team. Then we would probably have a chance of actually going up and not falling behind the likes of Exeter Stevenage and port vale in the league Bird is one of our best players, if not the best. It's probably between him and Cashin. Not sure what your issue is with him, but we're lucky to have him at this level. angieram, Jortat, Caerphilly Ram and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarterForTen Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 As he’s gone back to Sunderland for recuperation, does that mean we now have space in our treatment room to sign Andros Townsend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Bad luck for the lad but as McMuffin suggests, we did buy or loan a number of players returning from injuries. What we have got out of Wilson, John Jules, Embleton, Washington and Bradley doesn’t amount to a great deal at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Topram said: Gone back to Sunderland injured we’ve still got to pay part of his wage 😆 You just couldn't make it up. How many loan players do we have that get season ending injuries. Hopefully we learn from this and move away from recruiting from hospital wards. Magicman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Red Ram said: Bird is one of our best players, if not the best. It's probably between him and Cashin. Not sure what your issue is with him, but we're lucky to have him at this level. He has ability, more ability than most players in his position certainly in this league. Issue is he should be doing more with it. He doesn’t score or assist or isn’t that effective in the final third. He doesn't win the ball, gets outmuscled and rarely wins a 50/50. Yes he can play a sideways pass but he has the ability to be more effective. 1 in 10 games he’ll drop an 8/10 performance but then he doesn’t build on it. With his ability he should be dominating midfields in this division but don’t he? Does he heck. Doesn’t take responsibility. Is it a character thing? Lacking in desire I’ve never got it with Bird. Nothing anyone will say will ever change my mind. He can of course if he ups his game to become the player he can be. But this is a terrible league and if he’s as good as many think he is and many like me know he can be a lot better but the problem is our midfield are regularly out fought and out passed with Bird in particular passive too often. Hourihane is similar in some ways but CH at least offers more in the final 3rd and certainly in terms of goals/assists. Houihane has a good career and held his own in the prem but his legs have gone. Bird is 23 approaching his prime years. He should be showing a lot more not getting dominated in this league losing tackles not making anything happen! Edited September 28, 2023 by McMuffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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