G STAR RAM Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 8 minutes ago, Rich3478 said: Seeing as waghorn and Washington were already injured and then John Jules got injured with days left in the window then yes I’d suggest we should be preparing for that. Collins is 32,33. Expecting him to play 90 minutes for the rest of the season was crazy. Likewise as a team chasing promotion you’d probably want a striker to bring off the bench if chasing a game, or even fresh legs if winning to to see it out. warne obviously agreed as was trying to sign a striker. We should have had three or four options at least and been able to get one over the line on deadline day. I remember in the not too distant past, Hughes andn Bryson both getting injured and MM going out and panic buying Butterfield and Johnson on deadline day. If I recall correctly, with hindsight our fans were saying how ridiculous it was... Ram a lamb a ding dong and ck- 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 6 hours ago, TomTom92 said: I’m not saying they’re good. But if you would rather a winger have to play out of position for a month then that’s your prerogative. To me that scenario makes me sick. So you'd rather play someone in their natural position regardless of how good they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 S'all good man. Found another angle and if you look really closely, you can see a tiny snippet of Collo's cheeky, grinning mug. Phew! FlyBritishMidland and Steve How Hard? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 8 minutes ago, Chester40 said: Don't you start. It's like a betting exchange on here! I'd wager it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich3478 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 11 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: I remember in the not too distant past, Hughes andn Bryson both getting injured and MM going out and panic buying Butterfield and Johnson on deadline day. If I recall correctly, with hindsight our fans were saying how ridiculous it was... Only the prices paid were ridiculous, the idea of replacing injured players not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 41 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: And how do they fit into the wage structure of our business plan agreed with the EFL? You saying Gayle/Wickham would want more than what we were willing to pay for Smith/Gregory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Gayle is a strange one now.... Hardly a 'like for like' replacement for Collins! Thinking of the out of contract suggestions, theres an ex-Palace - massively injury-prone lump - who's a more obvious replacement for Collins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 42 minutes ago, Rich3478 said: Seeing as waghorn and Washington were already injured and then John Jules got injured with days left in the window then yes I’d suggest we should be preparing for that. Collins is 32,33. Expecting him to play 90 minutes for the rest of the season was crazy. Likewise as a team chasing promotion you’d probably want a striker to bring off the bench if chasing a game, or even fresh legs if winning to to see it out. warne obviously agreed as was trying to sign a striker. We should have had three or four options at least and been able to get one over the line on deadline day. I swear Warne (or Pearce?) said we had a long list of CF options. After finding out the wage/fee demands, the list was reduced to just 3 (or 4?) on deadline day. We agreed everything with 1 of them, then at 8pm their manager or owner decided to cancel the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: I swear Warne (or Pearce?) said we had a long list of CF options. After finding out the wage/fee demands, the list was reduced to just 3 (or 4?) on deadline day. We agreed everything with 1 of them, then at 8pm their manager or owner decided to cancel the move. Really? Like we wouldn't know to budget for expensive 'January' strikers? I think the obsession with 'got to be someone who is better/adds' to the squad or whatever it was is a problem. If we have no striker on Saturday any striker with two legs is better! Last January not getting a striker in was a mistake according to Warne. He's done the same again, waiting until the final hours only to be surprised when a deal falls through. Edited February 16 by RoyMac5 MackworthRamIsGod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 26 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: So you'd rather play someone in their natural position regardless of how good they are? Yes especially if it means we aren’t wasting NML. Plus it’s not like I’m suggesting some melt from the national league. These are proven professionals at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Really? Like we wouldn't know to budget for expensive 'January' strikers? I think the obsession with 'got to be someone who is better/adds' to the squad or whatever it was is a problem. If we have no striker on Saturday any striker with two legs is better! Last January not getting a striker in was a mistake according to Warne. He's done the same again, waiting until the final hours only to be surprised when a deal falls through. Is it ? Haven't we learnt from before, strikers are they rarest commodity and come at a premium. Rather than panicking and blame PW for the season collapsing just yet, aren't we best to see what happens. All I have heard for months is how bad this league is, if this is the case, then we will be fine. Wolfie20, Archied and FlyBritishMidland 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Be very very surprised if we bring someone in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Returning ram said: Is it ? Haven't we learnt from before, strikers are they rarest commodity and come at a premium. Rather than panicking and blame PW for the season collapsing just yet, aren't we best to see what happens. All I have heard for months is how bad this league is, if this is the case, then we will be fine. Even if Collins is fit - which he probably is - we needed another striker. Who (you!) said anything about the season collapsing? Oh what a surprise strikers cost more than most other players, who knew. Edited February 16 by RoyMac5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Even if Collins is fit - which he probably is - we needed another striker. Who (you!) said anything about the season collapsing? Oh what a surprise strikers cost more than most other players, who knew. I think everyone knew that we needed a striker, it wasn't a secret and they tried to get one in. They were even told one was coming, I'm not sure what more PW could do, I don't think he holds the purse stings. FlyBritishMidland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 27 minutes ago, TomTom92 said: You saying Gayle/Wickham would want more than what we were willing to pay for Smith/Gregory? I'm not saying anything, I have no idea on our budget or what wages players want, hence why I'm happy to leave it to the people who do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) Regardless of taking a risk on some players who are injury-prone, the length of the injuries has been incredibly unfortunate. 3 (or 4) 'half a season' injuries is ridiculous bad luck. Edited February 16 by Chester40 Comrade 86 and angieram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 19 minutes ago, TomTom92 said: Yes especially if it means we aren’t wasting NML. Plus it’s not like I’m suggesting some melt from the national league. These are proven professionals at this level. Who are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Just now, G STAR RAM said: I'm not saying anything, I have no idea on our budget or what wages players want, hence why I'm happy to leave it to the people who do. You questioned my suggestions inferring they wouldn’t fit in to the business plan. I’m suggesting that at least 2 of them probably would. Im not savvy to our budget but if we were in for Smith/Gregory then they aren’t on a pack of fags and a mars bar for a wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 25 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Really? Like we wouldn't know to budget for expensive 'January' strikers? I think the obsession with 'got to be someone who is better/adds' to the squad or whatever it was is a problem. If we have no striker on Saturday any striker with two legs is better! Last January not getting a striker in was a mistake according to Warne. He's done the same again, waiting until the final hours only to be surprised when a deal falls through. So anyone with two legs is better than nobody, but not the players that we already have, who also happen to have two legs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said: Who are? The players I’ve suggested. If you think they’re not good enough then that’s your opinion. Mine is that they would be good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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