littleover ram Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65611279 sounds like the £100m is based on Cardiff staying up in the PL had they had Sala. Shame that clubs have been allowed to sue other clubs over theoretical results. Can clubs sue referees over bad decisions? Can we sue that Sheff Wed player for diving and claim we would been promoted? Wycombe claimed the difference between L1 and the Champo was £8m Alph and therealhantsram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 The whole matter is extremely distasteful and the Cardiff directors should have a grain of moral decency to know when to draw a line under the matter. Am sure Sala's family are loving this bickering being played out in the national media. Cardiff should just do the right thing and stump up the transfer money they owe to Nantes then move on. Premier ram, I know nothing, Will the Ram and 5 others 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, littleover ram said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65611279 sounds like the £100m is based on Cardiff staying up in the PL had they had Sala. Shame that clubs have been allowed to sue other clubs over theoretical results. Can clubs sue referees over bad decisions? Can we sue that Sheff Wed player for diving and claim we would been promoted? Wycombe claimed the difference between L1 and the Champo was £8m Taken from the article to which you [provided the link... Quote Dalman confirmed the Cardiff's lawyers were responsible for determining the sum being sought. "I really think that's very much a legal question and I really don't want to answer that question," he added when asked how they arrived at the fee of 110m euros. "Our lawyers came up with the number. There is logic to it. It's not a number that we picked from the air." ... which doesn't appear to give any hint to support your "Sounds like..." theory. 🤷♂️ I think that... regardless of our own personal thoughts and opinions on this tragic event, or indeed the long running saga that continues 4 years on... it wouldn't be healthy to speculate, and it certainly wouldn't be polite to trivialise the event in order to compare it to poor refereeing decisions and/or oppo players who push the boundaries of the laws of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleover ram Posted May 16, 2023 Author Share Posted May 16, 2023 27 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: ... which doesn't appear to give any hint to support your "Sounds like..." theory. 🤷♂️ you sue for the amount of money you think you’ve lost. They say their lawyers came up with that figure based on logic. That amount can only be based on PL money, unless the lawyers reckon Cardiff would have sold £100m worth of Sala shirts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Did Nantes actually damage cardiff? Did Nantes book the plane? If they did, was there any reason on their part to suggest the booking was problematic? Even then I'm struggling to see how it was Nantes that should bare the responsibility for his death. His death hurt cardiff as a footall team, sure, but a contracted player being unavailable is very much a you problem. The did not buy the man. They bought his contract rights to play profession football for them. Unless Nantes directly were involved in his death which seems tenuious as the responsibility ultimatly lies with the travel provider who offered the service (or so it seems to me). I expect cardiff are doing this because they can't pay the money they owes not because they actually believe this. I'd be disgusted if they actually did. And, they will have instructed their lawyers to do this so "oh the lawyers came up with the number" you told them to and probable told them you'd like it to be big. Tamworthram and therealhantsram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Once a bluebird, always a bluebird. Unless we have to pay any money. Ram-a-lama fa fa fa, Tamworthram and LeedsCityRam 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 On 16/05/2023 at 19:16, Tyler Durden said: The whole matter is extremely distasteful and the Cardiff directors should have a grain of moral decency to know when to draw a line under the matter. Am sure Sala's family are loving this bickering being played out in the national media. Cardiff should just do the right thing and stump up the transfer money they owe to Nantes then move on. You say this but the club are desperate. All footballing bodies see him as a Cardiff player hence them being forced to pay £20m to Nantes but their own insurers won’t pay out because they don’t believe he was a Cardiff player. Where does a championship club just find that level of payment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, IlsonDerby said: Where does a championship club just find that level of payment? Tough. They were a Premier League club when they signed him. They knew when and how the money would be due when they entered into to deal. Edited May 18, 2023 by Carnero Tamworthram and Tyler Durden 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, Carnero said: Tough. They were a Premier League club when they signed him. They knew when and how the money would be due when they entered into to deal. And they would’ve got plenty of money from the premier league and parachute payments. Did they put some aside to pay this? Did they bollox! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Again, they paid for the contract rights for him to play football for them. They now don't want to pay for them. Mostly because they can't. They didn't buy a man, they bought a contract. Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 11 hours ago, Carnero said: Tough. They were a Premier League club when they signed him. They knew when and how the money would be due when they entered into to deal. A fella died. Do all clubs have a snuff fund for this very outcome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 13 hours ago, IlsonDerby said: You say this but the club are desperate. All footballing bodies see him as a Cardiff player hence them being forced to pay £20m to Nantes but their own insurers won’t pay out because they don’t believe he was a Cardiff player. Where does a championship club just find that level of payment? Yer it does smack of desperation and is now pushing the boundaries of decency as a result. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 13 hours ago, IlsonDerby said: You say this but the club are desperate. All footballing bodies see him as a Cardiff player hence them being forced to pay £20m to Nantes but their own insurers won’t pay out because they don’t believe he was a Cardiff player. Where does a championship club just find that level of payment? Surely the way out of this is to get a court judgement on whether he was a Cardiff player? If he was, the insurers will have to pay out and then they can pay Nantes. IlsonDerby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Emiliano Sala https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47696561 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49825166 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, angieram said: Surely the way out of this is to get a court judgement on whether he was a Cardiff player? If he was, the insurers will have to pay out and then they can pay Nantes. I thought the insurance was invalid because the flight was illegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: I thought the insurance was invalid because the flight was illegal I don't know. The poster above didn't mention that. If that's the case, they're really stuffed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 On 16/05/2023 at 19:02, littleover ram said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65611279 sounds like the £100m is based on Cardiff staying up in the PL had they had Sala. Shame that clubs have been allowed to sue other clubs over theoretical results. Can clubs sue referees over bad decisions? Can we sue that Sheff Wed player for diving and claim we would been promoted? Wycombe claimed the difference between L1 and the Champo was £8m God if we could sue for bad decsions wed be the richest club in the country this season Ewe Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dawn Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 They really are a grubby club. Lamouchi was too good for them anyway. Hope they go down next year. Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Red_Dawn said: They really are a grubby club. Lamouchi was too good for them anyway. Hope they go down next year. Whilst true - don’t chuck stones knowing what’s said about your owner 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dawn Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Sparkle said: Whilst true - don’t chuck stones knowing what’s said about your owner 👍 And likewise. You’re hardly one to throw stones given your previous owner! Marinakis pays his bills.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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