Gary Lineker

[nottingram]

10 minutes ago, cstand said:

You only need to read the comments section of the BBC website on a regular basis to understand the BBC is against the Tories. Try posting anything different it’s removed on a regular basis.

Or see the bias on question time.

This is why there are now trying to prove they are independent.

Is that the same Question Time where the presenter mitigated the domestic abuse by a former Prime Minister’s father by saying it was actually only the once that he did it? Or a different one?

[uttoxram75]

One huge elephant in the room over government policy on refugees, the combined resources of GCHQ, MI5, MI6, Scotland Yard and whoever else is part of Britains legal system cannot close down a bunch of criminal people traffickers who are mostly based in the south east of England according to various reports.

If they wanted to shut it down they could, probably overnight.

Its a distraction to keep us peasants fighting amongst ourselves instead of the ones running the show.

[i-Ram]

28 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Which begs the question, what the hell are they playing at? Who advised them to take this mad course of action?

I think I know given the links the upper echelons of the BBC have to our current government. Anyone got a better idea?

I have no knowledge regarding the contractual agreements between Lineker and the BBC, but I doubt whatever it might be that if Lineker had kept his comments to simply ‘ I am opposed to (or uncomfortable with) the Government’s current position on immigration’ it would be business as usual tonight, and I would be avoiding MOTD. HOWEVER, he decided he wanted to directly associate the current position with what was being considered in Germany in the 1930’s. There is no reasonable correlation I can see, and I am still waiting for his supporters on here to give me examples of the ‘language’ being used by Ministers in the UK that might seem similar in any respects to that espoused by Hitler or anyone of the National Party back then. I am going to watch MOTD tonight. Quite looking forward to it.

[Rev]

10 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Ah yes, the anti Tory bias. Lead by the famously left leaning chairman of the BBC who used to manage Sunak and helped Johnson get an 800k loan. Or the very left leaning Robbie Gibb who was the former director of communications for the Tories and whose brother is a Tory MP. Or perhaps the current director general who once stood as a Tory councillour. 

If it looks like a turd and smells like a turd it's probably a turd.

Come now.

They need the management to be right wing, to counteract the left wing biases of journalists such as Laura K, and Allegra Stratton.

[RoyMac5]

15 minutes ago, i-Ram said:

HOWEVER, he decided he wanted to directly associate the current position with what was being considered in Germany in the 1930’s. There is no reasonable correlation I can see, and I am still waiting for his supporters on here to give me examples of the ‘language’ being used by Ministers in the UK that might seem similar in any respects to that espoused by Hitler or anyone of the National Party back then.

So they should easily be able to laugh it off? Yet they're so uptight about it - methinks they do protest too much. 

[i-Ram]

1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said:

So they should easily be able to laugh it off? Yet they're so uptight about it - methinks they do protest too much. 

Laugh it off? It’s a crass comment by Lineker. You do know what Germany did to some 6 million million Jews don’t you Roy. 

[uttoxram75]

@i-Ram I take it you don't believe our security services are capable of closing down the criminal gangs who are trafficking these people into England.

I believe they are perfectly capable of tracking them and shutting their operations down if the government told them to.

[PistoldPete]

24 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said:

One huge elephant in the room over government policy on refugees, the combined resources of GCHQ, MI5, MI6, Scotland Yard and whoever else is part of Britains legal system cannot close down a bunch of criminal people traffickers who are mostly based in the south east of England according to various reports.

If they wanted to shut it down they could, probably overnight.

Its a distraction to keep us peasants fighting amongst ourselves instead of the ones running the show.

Maybe Sunak is finding it as tricky to close down gangs in South of England as Starmer found it stopping gangs in the North of England. 

[RoyMac5]

2 minutes ago, i-Ram said:

Laugh it off? It’s a crass comment by Lineker. You do know what Germany did to some 6 million million Jews don’t you Roy. 

You know how it started don't you i_Ram? They didn't start with concentration camps, but worked their way up to it.

"First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me"

If only someone had spoken out earlier?

[cstand]

35 minutes ago, nottingram said:

Is that the same Question Time where the presenter mitigated the domestic abuse by a former Prime Minister’s father by saying it was actually only the once that he did it? Or a different one?

What has that got to do BBC bias on question time over many years.?

[uttoxram75]

Just now, PistoldPete said:

Maybe Sunak is finding it as tricky to close down gangs in South of England as Starmer found it stopping gangs in the North of England. 

Do you think Sunak is finding it tricky? Do you think he has ordered our world class security services to stop this criminal trade but they are just not very good at doing it?

[i-Ram]

1 minute ago, uttoxram75 said:

@i-Ram I take it you don't believe our security services are capable of closing down the criminal gangs who are trafficking these people into England.

I believe they are perfectly capable of tracking them and shutting their operations down if the government told them to.

I don’t to be honest, and I laughed at your notion that ‘they could do it probably overnight’. However, I found it more amusing that you think ‘Its a distraction to keep us peasants fighting amongst ourselves instead of the ones running the show’.

Seriously, if it were possible to eliminate these criminal gangs, why don’t you think it has been done. Surely it would be politically expedient whatever colour rosette was being worn?

[i-Ram]

4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

You know how it started don't you i_Ram? They didn't start with concentration camps, but worked their way up to it.

"First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me"

If only someone had spoken out earlier?

I think you’ve lost it Roy. Certainly lost me. I’m out.

[uttoxram75]

1 minute ago, i-Ram said:

I don’t to be honest, and I laughed at your notion that ‘they could do it probably overnight’. However, I found it more amusing that you think ‘Its a distraction to keep us peasants fighting amongst ourselves instead of the ones running the show’.

Seriously, if it were possible to eliminate these criminal gangs, why don’t you think it has been done. Surely it would be politically expedient whatever colour rosette was being worn?

Or it could be politically expedient to allow it to continue so we have a bogey man to blame for not being able to see a doctor?

[AndyinLiverpool]

53 minutes ago, cstand said:

You only need to read the comments section of the BBC website on a regular basis to understand the BBC is against the Tories. Try posting anything different it’s removed on a regular basis.

Or see the bias on question time.

This is why there are now trying to prove they are independent.

You realise that comment sections are populated by anybody at all who wants to comment and not by people following editorial policy?

[cstand]

11 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said:

You realise that comment sections are populated by anybody at all who wants to comment and not by people following editorial policy?

The comments section is the same banal regurgitated rubbish over and over again no matter what the subject.

 

Edited March 11, 2023 by cstand

[i-Ram]

8 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said:

Or it could be politically expedient to allow it to continue so we have a bogey man to blame for not being able to see a doctor?

Seriously, I normally enjoy your posts, even though we have different political views, but tonight I haven’t got the foggiest idea what you are going on about (and I haven’t even been drinking) 

[cstand]

Classic Clough nailed it years ago. This should be shown to all the so called pundits over and over again.

 

Edited March 11, 2023 by cstand

[Ram-Alf]

23 minutes ago, i-Ram said:

I don’t to be honest, and I laughed at your notion that ‘they could do it probably overnight’. However, I found it more amusing that you think ‘Its a distraction to keep us peasants fighting amongst ourselves instead of the ones running the show’.

Seriously, if it were possible to eliminate these criminal gangs, why don’t you think it has been done. Surely it would be politically expedient whatever colour rosette was being worn?

For every gang that gets shut down there's another to replace them, The Kurds run the show with the Albanians the middle men, France are in the same boat...excuse the pun, Now expecting all migrants to be put in a camp in France....Sangatte anyone.

You can slow the process down, You can't close it down, Europe is seen as the place to hang their hats, As for Bravermans rhetoric she's on a loser, Once the refugees are here it's nigh on impossible to move them out.

Just a bit of amusement for all, There are circa 8 billion people in the world, Did you know they could all fit into Lock Ness 10 times, There's plenty of room in the UK...but finding housing for them is as bad as finding housing for the locals.

[Bob The Badger]

7 minutes ago, cstand said:

Classic Clough nailed it years ago. This should be played to all the so called pundits over and over again.

 

Good solid socialist, Cloughie was.