Guest Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Inspired by the "Sibley Enigma" thread and the ongoing Max Bird debate - the first one essentially "He's obviously got great potential... how do we get him to fulfil it?" and the second almost a polarised "He could be brilliant, but..." versus "He doesn't bring anything to the team and he shouldn't be in it". In either case, I think it will be a disaster if either leaves - especially for next to nothing - and I can well imagine them coming back to haunt us, not only with the inevitable virtuoso performance against us, but generally showing everyone that they WERE as good as a lot of us thought they were. (Timely to start this thread the morning after Morgan Whitaker gets himself another goal and two assists). So, the question is: which of our young player(s) do you most regret that we let go? It's all relative, so the level we were at when a player left doesn't really matter; it's more to do with their potential/ how good you think they could have been for us at that time, in the situation we were in (as you saw it). You can only include players where the feeling is that we got rid of them because we didn't need/rate them; not players going to a higher level (e.g. Hughes), even if the sum we received was a joke (e.g. Ebiowei), and definitely not where the player clearly wanted to leave anyway (e.g. Buchanan). And it's not about claiming to be a visionary. I for one didn't rate Whitaker at all when he was here (athough I accept he was breaking into the team in a higher league than the one in which he is now excelling). I do rate Bird highly, and Sibley too (a little less), and despite some frustration over their performances, don't want either to leave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Mark O'Brien. Central defender, reminds me a bit of Cashin. I thought he had tremendous potential. Once saw him flick the ball over his own head and that of the attacker before bringing it forward. Classy. Suffered from a serious health condition (heart I think) and was released. Think he's since had a successful career in Scotland and at Newport County. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewethanised Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Mark O'Brien. Central defender, reminds me a bit of Cashin. I thought he had tremendous potential. Once saw him flick the ball over his own head and that of the attacker before bringing it forward. Classy. Suffered from a serious health condition (heart I think) and was released. Think he's since had a successful career in Scotland and at Newport County. He was a great player and was sad to see him go, was glad he could forge a career as a regular at another club. Seen he’s had to retire due to said heart condition, gutted for the lad and hope he’s still being successful. My heartbreaker for a player leaving So soon based on my early years was Malcolm Christie, obviously not a generational talent but he always gave it his all and scored reasonably well, before our finances Bamforded up and we were forced to sell. He was treated horrendously and had horrible injury luck following us. Edited November 1, 2022 by Ewethanised IslandExile and RadioactiveWaste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, IslandExile said: Mark O'Brien. Central defender, reminds me a bit of Cashin. I thought he had tremendous potential. Once saw him flick the ball over his own head and that of the attacker before bringing it forward. Classy. Suffered from a serious health condition (heart I think) and was released. Think he's since had a successful career in Scotland and at Newport County. Yep, came through under Nigel Clough - maybe in the season we started with 4 wins? Good one - I hadn't thought of him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 27 minutes ago, jameso said: Inspired by the "Sibley Enigma" thread and the ongoing Max Bird debate - the first one essentially "He's obviously got great potential... how do we get him to fulfil it?" and the second almost a polarised "He could be brilliant, but..." versus "He doesn't bring anything to the team and he shouldn't be in it". In either case, I think it will be a disaster if either leaves - especially for next to nothing - and I can well imagine them coming back to haunt us, not only with the inevitable virtuoso performance against us, but generally showing everyone that they WERE as good as a lot of us thought they were. (Timely to start this thread the morning after Morgan Whitaker gets himself another goal and two assists). So, the question is: which of our young player(s) do you most regret that we let go? It's all relative, so the level we were at when a player left doesn't really matter; it's more to do with their potential/ how good you think they could have been for us at that time, in the situation we were in (as you saw it). You can only include players where the feeling is that we got rid of them because we didn't need/rate them; not players going to a higher level (e.g. Hughes), even if the sum we received was a joke (e.g. Ebiowei), and definitely not where the player clearly wanted to leave anyway (e.g. Buchanan). And it's not about claiming to be a visionary. I for one didn't rate Whitaker at all when he was here (athough I accept he was breaking into the team in a higher league than the one in which he is now excelling). I do rate Bird highly, and Sibley too (a little less), and despite some frustration over their performances, don't want either to leave! Hand on heart I can't say there's any player I regret losing. No young player that we have let go, have set the football world alight. Whitaker who you give as an example, may be having a purple patch. But haven't we wasted hugh amounts in transfer fees on similar players, only to see them fail to perform for us? So while the odd player may have had a few good games after leaving us. As I've already said none of them have made the footballing world sit up in admiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicman Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Jeff Hendrick. Wolfie20 and swansea ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamUltraRam Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Morgan Whittaker is looking pretty good right now, another goal and 2 assists the other night for Plymouth. I remember watching him for our u23s and he was head and shoulders above our other 'star' youngsters. I know he looked lightweight in the first team but looks like he's now come of age RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Right now none, you can look at players like Kaide Gordon, yet would it be fair to say we let him go? Couldn't really prevent it, got to keep those Premier League clubs happy. Will Hughes is the only one you could really make a case for, however he hasn't reached the heights many predicted for him, not had a whiff of an England cap and to think he's 28 in 6 months sounds crazy. Contract expires in 2024, if we are back in the Championship, I wouldn't be surprised to see him back at Derby to see out his career. LazloW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igorwasking Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Paul Williams and the young goalkeeper (blonde hair) whose name escapes me right now, similar era. Neither went on to have glittering careers - but I was certain both would - and gutted when they left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dordogne-Ram Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Phil Boyer - went to York City, moved on to Southampton where he gained a full England cap. Magicman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 No one apart from the ones mentioned already really. I suppose it would’ve good to see Ian Evatt stay on a bit longer. He made a decent career with Blackpool in the Premier briefly. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Loved Vydras pace and work rate. Always felt he was a thoroughly honest player. Ebiowe doesn’t count according to the rules of the OP but I just know he’ll make the grade and Festy would have given us so much delight cos he was so clearly skilled and full of character. He would have been loved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Igorwasking said: Paul Williams and the young goalkeeper (blonde hair) whose name escapes me right now, similar era. Neither went on to have glittering careers - but I was certain both would - and gutted when they left. You've got me with this one... we're talking early-mid 90s? Released or joined another club? Edit: you don't mean Martin Taylor? Edited November 1, 2022 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Lee Camp. .... .... I'll get me coat.... Anon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Lee Camp. .... .... I'll get me coat.... I'd go along with this. Always seemed to me a bit of a mess that we had both Camp and Grant at the same time (under Burley?) and ended up losing both of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HectorsHouse Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, jameso said: You've got me with this one... we're talking early-mid 90s? Released or joined another club? Edit: you don't mean Martin Taylor? Russell Hoult..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Tom Huddleston is another obvious one, but that was the 3 amigo fire sale rather than us mistakingly letting a talent go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Huddlestone (first time). Rasiak, Saunders, Wright (not our youth products but proper gutted none the less). Kind of forced by financials at the time. Goddard. Not forced, just a stupid decision. ?. Steve How Hard? and hintonsboots 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Grant and Camp made decent careers for themselves and we may well have benefitted from keeping one of them. The one I'd most liked to have kept, especially seeing he did pretty well after he left was Chris Riggott. Anon and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, HectorsHouse said: Russell Hoult..?? Or Andy Quy? There's a lot of blonde in this picture but not much of it is coming from him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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