Curtains Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Have the club made the same mistake again ! alram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Sigh. Curtains pendulum has swung into the negative. Wasn’t it that long ago he was mr positive for someone or another. Wasn’t it Kertchner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondest Goat Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I think Warne will probably get us out of league one if he's given time. Think his footballing philosophy might be a bit basic to get us promoted from the championship though. Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Warne's been at the club just over a month, I'm not sure how anyone can say yes or no at this point in time. RadioactiveWaste, EranioIsGod, Jourdan and 10 others 2 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 minute ago, David said: Warne's been at the club just over a month, I'm not sure how anyone can say yes or no at this point in time. Precisely! It's a question nobody can answer, until it can be answered! ... To be fair, I'm not even certain which previous mistake is being referred to in the OP, to make the comparison, so I'm definitely keeping out of this one! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: Precisely! It's a question nobody can answer, until it can be answered! ... To be fair, I'm not even certain which previous mistake is being referred to in the OP, to make the comparison, so I'm definitely keeping out of this one! ? I think the long contracts Mel gave to Paul Clement and Nigel Pearson spring to mind. In this case, 4 seems long in the modern game, but it's probably the length of contract was needed to get Warne to up sticks from Rotherham. David Graham Brown and Mucker1884 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Seems a long contract, but some said that at the time. David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 No-one should be given a 4 year contract so yes it was too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Depends what his wages are really. If we're offering a longer contract in exchange for lower wages then no problem with it. If we're not paying Warne megabucks then again no problem with it, as it will keep the cost down if we ever need to get rid. I'd say 4 years was probably a bit too long given how much we've had to pay out in the recent past, but we've got to offer something of value in our current limited financial state, so can't disagree with it too much in this instance. David Graham Brown and Norman 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I can’t imagine a four year contract was too long for Paul Warne. I’m sure he was delighted. Whether or not a four year contract was too long to give to Paul Warne is something nobody can answer at this point. The length of contract has no bearing on how we’re currently playing under him. I would also assume that the club have budgeted for any and all financial implications of a four year contract (hopefully) RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 If a 4 year contract means we finally stick with something and see it through, allow a manager his poor spells and give him the opportunity to work through them, rather than panicking and dropping the axe at the first sign of trouble then no, it's not a mistake. (Unless we actually get relegated, but that's not going to happen) (Please don't screenshot @ or quote me on that in 7 months) ROKERITE, SKRam and LazloW 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) Ridiculously premature thread. That said I've never been a fan of giving managers 4 year contracts. I thought it was strange when Cocu was handed one. Edited October 26, 2022 by Rammy03 SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I think the long contracts Mel gave to Paul Clement and Nigel Pearson spring to mind. In this case, 4 seems long in the modern game, but it's probably the length of contract was needed to get Warne to up sticks from Rotherham. Cheers. I'd got Cocu in my mind, but wasn't certain! ? RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Next season will be the time to worry if progress isn't being made imo. Two transfer windows and a full pre-season should be enough for Warne to get the squad more moulded to his requirements. SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 39 minutes ago, Curtains said: Have the club made the same mistake again ! Far too early to say but we are missing players and they are our better ones - unlike Pearson who had very good players in their prime and Rowett who still had decent players - we are in the third division and can’t particularly re-in force our squad with what we need whilst watching opponents running everywhere and ours can’t run 360 degrees - we simply lost far too many very good young players from last January onwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: Cheers. I'd got Cocu in my mind, but wasn't certain! ? We did give Cocu a long contract as well didn't we. Out of Clemente, Pearson and Cocu, all can be viewed as mistakes in hindsight, but there's probably a case for Pearson not being given the time to get the team to be what he wanted it to be, Clement the first real tough patch and Cocu showing up just at the point Mel's house of cards started to fall down. That's all in the past, under the reign of terror of chairman Mel. The 4 year contract with Paul Warne is probably an indication that he's going to be allowed to get on with it, bar horrific underperforming. We'll be in no danger of league 2 and probably short of play offs with this squad, but if they get their mentality adjusted it's a solid enough squad for league 1. If it was poop or bust going up this year, a 4 year contract makes no sense, massive promotion incentives would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 people always assume a 4 year deal means a 4 year payout, the length is only worth what's written in the contract, it could have a 12 month payoff from point of sacking, it could have 6 month one. these sort of things are common, only stupid or desperate football clubs would commit to the full amount as a payoff. Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 31 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: Ridiculously premature thread. That said I've never been a fan of giving managers 4 year contracts. I thought it was strange when Cocu was handed one. So if we wanted to get rid we couldn’t afford it so why is it premature. I thought Warne was going to be good and he may well be. David Clowes decided he wanted to change manager so we have to get behind the manager as Rams Fans Just not sure he’s the right man after reassessment but I will be called a turncoat. I just want to be entertained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Kokosnuss said: If a 4 year contract means we finally stick with something and see it through, allow a manager his poor spells and give him the opportunity to work through them, rather than panicking and dropping the axe at the first sign of trouble then no, it's not a mistake. (Unless we actually get relegated, but that's not going to happen) (Please don't screenshot @ or quote me on that in 7 months) Didn’t Cocu get a 4 year contract ? RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I don't think it's as long as The Bayeux Tapestry ? Van der MoodHoover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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