Kernow Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Good thing that you can still interpret the rules how you want and use them to get an unfair advantage. So glad to see certain clubs punished for not abiding the rules, whilst others are fine to do as they like. angieram, The Scarlet Pimpernel, Ramrob and 13 others 1 3 9 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Seems legit........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) Signed for around £4m in January 2022 19 PL appearances with a single goal and zero assists in a team finishing 19th last season 4 Championship appearances this season Sold for £16m in August 2022 The EFL will make sure the deal represents fair market value though, right? (Transfermarkt has it as £3.6m and £17.1m, so just the 4.75% increase in value) Edited August 23, 2022 by Kokosnuss Premier ram and Crewton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPRamFan Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 A relegated team with parachute payments needs to strengthen their cash flow, and keep the player in the process. What chance do the rest of the EFL teams have competing against teams like this. Shambles Foxy Ram, Carnero, Crewton and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Surprised they haven’t thrown Ebosele into the deal too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 And this is partly why the EFL are done for. If folk were valuing property in this fashion, they'd end up in prison, but if the 'asset' is a footballer, yeah, fill ya boots. Meanwhile, the body that nearly hounded us into liquidation for the heinous crime of alleged FRS102 non-compliance, stands idly by, whistling and averting their gaze. Nothing to see here, apparently! angieram, Steve Buckley’s Dog, Van der MoodHoover and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Kernow said: Good thing that you can still interpret the rules how you want and use them to get an unfair advantage. So glad to see certain clubs punished for not abiding the rules, whilst others are fine to do as they like. Those comments. Derby SOLd thE stadium to THEDSELDES and broke de Rulessss. Err..... no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Those comments. Derby SOLd thE stadium to THEDSELDES and broke de Rulessss. Err..... no The irony is that the stadium sale deal was probably a lot fairer than this. In our case, we needed independent valuation by a third party to sell the asset. In Watford's, they can pay whatever they want. I don't think these deals should be off the cards entirely - it's reasonable that two clubs under the same ownership would sometimes genuinely want to trade between each other without other motives - but, as with the stadium deal, there should be restrictions on how these deals are carried out and/or accounted for. Edited August 23, 2022 by JfR Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LERam Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Forest did similar last season, selling a player at overinflated price. What's this all about though? Feel like it's a con but can't work it out? If they get relegated will they turn the loan perm and give forest a cash injection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, LERam said: Forest did similar last season, selling a player at overinflated price. What's this all about though? Feel like it's a con but can't work it out? If they get relegated will they turn the loan perm and give forest a cash injection? Probably more of a hand from Forest to Olympiacos, this time. 5m would actually be quite a high fee for modern Olympiacos to spend on one player. LERam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 The EFL just need to change the rules and retrospectively punish these clubs, it’s the only fair thing to do right? Sparkle, Comrade 86, Reggie Greenwood and 2 others 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 23 hours ago, Ted McMinn Football Genius said: Surprised they haven’t thrown Ebosele into the deal too Unfortunately it’s just a case of - it will happen. Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 9 hours ago, David said: The EFL just need to change the rules and retrospectively punish these clubs, it’s the only fair thing to do right? Wouldn't mind, not gonna lie ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 9 hours ago, David said: The EFL just need to change the rules and retrospectively punish these clubs, it’s the only fair thing to do right? only after they decide what they thought the rules SHOULD have said and then bring them up in front of an independent body chosen to agree with the EFL.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 It just confirms that FFP is one giant hypocrisy. This is way worse than what we were guilty of and at those values Watford are taking the piss. It also raises serious questions what the Carvalho transfer from Forest to Olympiakos actually was. Still undisclosed!! He would be £500k tops in the real market!! Mel pissed off the EFL, he pissed off Gibson who decided to make it an issue, they then both stopped at nothing to bury us (with an unforeseen significant helping hand from Mel who became the ultimate villain). If Mel was cordial with the EFL and didn’t piss off Gibson we’d have been fine Re:FFP. Allowing this complete and utter nonsense shows they aren’t serious about it! angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 4 hours ago, BramcoteRam84 said: It just confirms that FFP is one giant hypocrisy. This is way worse than what we were guilty of and at those values Watford are taking the piss. It also raises serious questions what the Carvalho transfer from Forest to Olympiakos actually was. Still undisclosed!! He would be £500k tops in the real market!! Mel pissed off the EFL, he pissed off Gibson who decided to make it an issue, they then both stopped at nothing to bury us (with an unforeseen significant helping hand from Mel who became the ultimate villain). If Mel was cordial with the EFL and didn’t piss off Gibson we’d have been fine Re:FFP. Allowing this complete and utter nonsense shows they aren’t serious about it! I'd love them to take a look at this. It's now so blatant that they're using the two clubs to transfer ffp headroom. Don't know if there's any oversight the EFL can do really, might have to include uefa as well. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 You wait, they'll be a raft of Championship chairman buying the likes of Fofar Athletic, or some Sunday morning pub team in Ireland for a pittance and doing the same thing with a whole squad of players. Dodgy and unsporting, but according to UEFA and the EFL, perfectly legit... Reggie Greenwood and Carnero 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 21 hours ago, BramcoteRam84 said: It just confirms that FFP is one giant hypocrisy. This is way worse than what we were guilty of and at those values Watford are taking the piss. It also raises serious questions what the Carvalho transfer from Forest to Olympiakos actually was. Still undisclosed!! He would be £500k tops in the real market!! Mel pissed off the EFL, he pissed off Gibson who decided to make it an issue, they then both stopped at nothing to bury us (with an unforeseen significant helping hand from Mel who became the ultimate villain). If Mel was cordial with the EFL and didn’t piss off Gibson we’d have been fine Re:FFP. Allowing this complete and utter nonsense shows they aren’t serious about it! Anybody still got Parry's email address? Would be interesting to hear his defence of this. richinspain and BramcoteRam84 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 7 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Anybody still got Parry's email address? Would be interesting to hear his defence of this. "It's not against the rules" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSD Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Good to know there's football clubs like Brentford who break the mold and don't have owners who exploit loopholes to comply with these idiotic FFP rules. If Forest go down, they'll sell a number of the squad to the parent club and bring them back on loan if needed. Very fair indeed.... Genuinely thought FFP would be a great idea and bridge the gap in wealth. It has done the complete opposite and has burnt more avenues for other clubs to achieve within the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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