Srg Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, Cam the Ram said: Wouldn't surprise me if the EFL are yet again making stuff up as they go along. Wigan must have signed at least 5 players who all cost transfer fees within the 12 months following them coming out of administration, but the EFL won't allow us to spend a penny ... Yep, sounds about right ?♂️ Guess it’s the business plan put forward. Maybe their owner was putting more money in? No idea but would make sense that the business plans aren’t identical. Cam the Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambalin Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, Turnstile said: None of our signings are FREE!! Instead of paying another club for them we are paying each player a personal signing on fee,enough in some cases to cover the cost of them cancelling their contacts with their current clubs.FREE my @£&e.Surely we have seen in the last nine months that players and their agents get their money!! being football creditors. Normally you would be correct but under our agreed buisness plan there are restrictions on agents fees and signing fees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnstile Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, Rambalin said: Normally you would be correct but under our agreed buisness plan there are restrictions on agents fees and signing fees 37 minutes ago, Rambalin said: Normally you would be correct but under our agreed buisness plan there are restrictions on agents fees and signing fees Yes there are but the players will still be getting a fee .Capped I agree but they will not be coming for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Caerphilly Ram said: Quotes from Rosenior in the following article say we can’t pay fees, so perhaps there’s no truth to this link OR there’s some sort of workaround being found? ? "You've got to get the balance right in every squad and the demographic of it is really important," he said. "But also where we are at is that we are still under restriction in terms of that we can't do fees for players. Normally to pay for a player, they'll be between 22 and 28. Free agents are normally in that age bracket, but where we are lucky is that we have outstanding young players here already.” https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/derby-county-transfers-liam-rosenior-7346631 Wigan Athletic paid a transfer fee whilst stil in admin.. so not sure why we shouldn't be allowed to pay any fees at all, having exited admin. I wouldn't expect big fees but no reason why we shoudln't pay a low fee for a lower league player who is under contract. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, PistoldPete said: Wigan Athletic paid a transfer fee whilst stil in admin.. so not sure why we shouldn't be allowed to pay any fees at all, having exited admin. I wouldn't expect big fees but no reason why we shoudln't pay a low fee for a lower league player who is under contract. . Just sharing what Rosenior said when asked. Each post admin situation seems to be different so it’ll depend on what Clowes, the admins and EFL agreed in this “business plan”. Maybe we can’t spend fees, maybe we can and Rosenior is being coy, maybe we will be able to once we sell an asset? Only a handful of people actually know the facts nogbad van 50, Rev, RadioactiveWaste and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 7 hours ago, Taribo said: Reckon he's any good? I must admit i'm in the dark with our current crop of youth 7 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: I think he has potential, looks better going forward perhaps but has lots about him. Maybe @Ghost of Cloughcould give you a more 'technical' breakdown, I'm a bit going on 'intuition'. With Roberts and hopefully Forsyth battling it out at LB, I doubt we'll see WGP in the first team. Maybe on the bench a couple of times if someone is injured. The next LB to play for our first team will likely be Moloney once he's recovered from injury. An exciting wing back. Could possibly see Kei Robinson feature there in a couple of years as a more defensive minded option, typical of a player who is equally as good at LB and CB. angieram and 48 hours 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Turnstile said: None of our signings are FREE!! Instead of paying another club for them we are paying each player a personal signing on fee,enough in some cases to cover the cost of them cancelling their contacts with their current clubs.FREE my @£&e.Surely we have seen in the last nine months that players and their agents get their money!! being football creditors. Who is "cancelling their contract"? The only players we've recruited who was under contract was Collins, but Cardiff allowed him to go on a free rather than anyone buying him out of his contract. We'll be capped at about £750k-1m. Realistically, it'll be less. Only two clubs paid more that Wigan's £355k last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnstile Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Who is "cancelling their contract"? The only players we've recruited who was under contract was Collins, but Cardiff allowed him to go on a free rather than anyone buying him out of his contract. We'll be capped at about £750k-1m. Realistically, it'll be less. Only two clubs paid more that Wigan's £355k last season. £750k-1m each or for all ten we have already signed ? Doesn’t seem much to each individual to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, Turnstile said: £750k-1m each or for all ten we have already signed ? Doesn’t seem much to each individual to me. For the entire team, including contract renewals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnstile Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: For the entire team, including contract renewals. 26 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: For the entire team, including contract renewals. You have more financial faith in the EFL,players and agents than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Turnstile said: You have more financial faith in the EFL,players and agents than me. We paid £748,889 in 21/22. Top 6 in L1 last season were: Sheff Weds - £796,224 Ipswich - £779,739 Wigan - £355,774 Sunderland - £310,244 Wycombe - £258,952 Charlton - £195,079 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Maybe they've just been told "here's the wage budget and free transfers only" as policy rather than requirements? Who knows. I think overall budget restrictions are far more likely than a no transfer fees restriction in the business plan. Might be limited to only paying fees up front and not in installments? Honestly no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarterForTen Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 The over-arching requirement of a League-enforced post-Administration business plan is a break-even policy, and you'd think that applied to all levels of expenditure, whether that be player wages, player acquisition costs or club running costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Maybe we just have an owner who thinks transfers should be paid for with money we actually have rather than speculating by sending us into debt? We haven't sold anyone yet so how would we have fees to buy anyone? Clowes has already stumped up a bunch of money to pay our debts (probably over time) and we all know that with modern football wages season ticket money barely leaves anything left over - So I would imagine the manager has been given a simple instruction that he can spend whatever he generates in player sales angieram and Birdyabroad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wignall12 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 38 minutes ago, Srg said: Don't see us in that list ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Wignall12 said: Don't see us in that list ? We’re not. We were previously linked with him, looks like we aren’t now looking at him now he’s available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Srg said: We’re not. We were previously linked with him, looks like we aren’t now looking at him now he’s available. Perhaps we have other irons in the fire ..nod nod wink wink ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 30 minutes ago, Srg said: We’re not. We were previously linked with him, looks like we aren’t now looking at him now he’s available. Ah, so this is the one we were in for, now we’re out for, wonder if we’ll go back in and back out again MidWalesRam, lrm14, Ewethanised and 3 others 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodminRam Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Good signing for a song, oh Ali Koiki. Koiki, oh Ali Koiki. Koiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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