duncanjwitham Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 44 minutes ago, Ambitious said: Brighton would be daft not to at least offer him equal terms in order to get a £500-600k compensation or whatever it would be. I thought that would've already been considered a done deal. Depends. They probably don't want the situation where they offer him a new deal, and Bristol (and any other similar-sized clubs) decide £500k is too much and back out. Then Brighton are stuck with a player that they don't want and who doesn't want to be there. EnigmaRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 30 minutes ago, Blondest Goat said: But can't he then accept their offer and they're lumbered with paying the wages of a player they don't want? Of course, but all they have to do is match his current contract (likely to be £5k a week roughly) whereas Bristol's offer will no doubt be triple that amount. They would also hold his registration and would probably be able to get a decent fee for loaning him out - and his wages paid. Premier League clubs need not worry about being 'lumbered' with relatively tiny (honestly, insignificant) contracts. What it does do is entitle them to compensation which is essentially free money to them - all things considered I would imagine it wouldn't be difficult for them to get half a million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 37 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: Depends. They probably don't want the situation where they offer him a new deal, and Bristol (and any other similar-sized clubs) decide £500k is too much and back out. Then Brighton are stuck with a player that they don't want and who doesn't want to be there. If the rules stipulated 'match the contract offer' then it would be different, but all they would have to do is offer him the same terms as his previous youth deal - likely not much for a player that hasn't played a game. If Bristol (or whoever) pull out and he signs there - they wouldn't lose any money because they could just loan him out again. No doubt we would have him back in a flash on the same terms, so really they're in a no lose situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJH Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 17 hours ago, duncanjwitham said: Depends. They probably don't want the situation where they offer him a new deal, and Bristol (and any other similar-sized clubs) decide £500k is too much and back out. Then Brighton are stuck with a player that they don't want and who doesn't want to be there. They've released him, and he'll be announced tomorrow. Not bad on a free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leveller Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 20 hours ago, Ambitious said: Of course, but all they have to do is match his current contract (likely to be £5k a week roughly) whereas Bristol's offer will no doubt be triple that amount. They would also hold his registration and would probably be able to get a decent fee for loaning him out - and his wages paid. Premier League clubs need not worry about being 'lumbered' with relatively tiny (honestly, insignificant) contracts. What it does do is entitle them to compensation which is essentially free money to them - all things considered I would imagine it wouldn't be difficult for them to get half a million. We (Bristol City) certainly won’t be trebling his pay. Our current plan is all about cutting the wage bill while maintaining the squad quality. Nakhi Wells has decided to stay and taken a pay cut. Tomas Kalas is out of contract and was allegedly on £25K over the last 5 years but has been offered renewal at around (or below) £10K. And he’s an established Czech international. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Leveller said: We (Bristol City) certainly won’t be trebling his pay. Our current plan is all about cutting the wage bill while maintaining the squad quality. Nakhi Wells has decided to stay and taken a pay cut. Tomas Kalas is out of contract and was allegedly on £25K over the last 5 years but has been offered renewal at around (or below) £10K. And he’s an established Czech international. I'd imagine his wages are quite low at Brighton, £10k would probably double what he's on there. I'd also guess (although could be wrong) we would've offered something similar (if not more). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondest Goat Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 21 hours ago, Ambitious said: Of course, but all they have to do is match his current contract (likely to be £5k a week roughly) whereas Bristol's offer will no doubt be triple that amount. They would also hold his registration and would probably be able to get a decent fee for loaning him out - and his wages paid. Premier League clubs need not worry about being 'lumbered' with relatively tiny (honestly, insignificant) contracts. What it does do is entitle them to compensation which is essentially free money to them - all things considered I would imagine it wouldn't be difficult for them to get half a million. Not sure why Brighton have seemingly turned down this opportunity of free money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Ram Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Heisenberg said: ariotofmyown and Taribo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Ha! So that's why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Ha! So that's why... No chance he was on that at Brighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Ha! So that's why... Where on earth has that figure come from? He signed the contract at 18 years of age at the same time he agreed to go on a season-long loan to Rochdale. I've seen some obvious s**** in my time, but that's up there with the worst I can recall. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJH Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Ha! So that's why... 🤣 RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 19 hours ago, Ambitious said: Where on earth has that figure come from? He signed the contract at 18 years of age at the same time he agreed to go on a season-long loan to Rochdale. I've seen some obvious s**** in my time, but that's up there with the worst I can recall. could be out by a factor of 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Daly Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: could be out by a factor of 10 Yeah I thought it was rubbish too. As if Bristol will be offering him that much either. He just obviously feels he can play in the Championship at his age, which is fair enough kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 19 hours ago, Ambitious said: Where on earth has that figure come from? He signed the contract at 18 years of age at the same time he agreed to go on a season-long loan to Rochdale. I've seen some obvious s**** in my time, but that's up there with the worst I can recall. Don’t forgot last year we couldn’t pay loan fees so no chance Brighton would be happy to pay that full amount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 47 minutes ago, Topram said: Don’t forgot last year we couldn’t pay loan fees so no chance Brighton would be happy to pay that full amount There is a lot of reasons why it just isn't true. The website it is from, however, generates a clubs' wage bill by pure guess work. So, MY guess is that they've looked at the companies house documentation from a previous year and started inflating youth team players wages to get close to the value. They just took the piss when it came to Haydon Roberts. Anyone with an 1/8th of a brain would see that Brighton weren't going to give an 18 year old with no first team experience, about to go out on loan to a struggling League One side, circa £1.5m per annum in wages. It would put him on par with some of the best paid players in the Championship (discounting bonuses). It's just clearly wildly incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share Posted June 14, 2023 Rumours of Roberts changing his mind at the eleventh hour and heading our way instead… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Just now, Nuwtfly said: Rumours of Roberts changing his mind at the eleventh hour and heading our way instead… And where are these rumours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Rumours of Roberts changing his mind at the eleventh hour and heading our way instead… If you are making it up Comrade 86, i-Ram, Caerphilly Ram and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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