sage Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Boro and Wycombe agree to a 25% limit on claims that go to arbitration. This is not an admission of guilt and we will fight this. EFL offer us that £8.3m loan everyone else got. We are allowed to sign up to 4 players as long as the total cost doesn't exceed the savings we made on Marshall, Jags, Baldock and Shinniesta Premier ram, LeedsCityRam, IslandExile and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 41 minutes ago, IslandExile said: So, no one is shifting but the government underling representing the Department of Culture, Media and Sport has suggested everyone works to find a pragmatic solution. So I thought we could all offer ours - please not just telling Gibson that's he's a right bamford and should duck off. We all know that but he won't, so we need something that will work: to save the club hopefully in time to keep our players and manager to give them a shot at pulling off the "great escape" So, here is my suggestion to kick things off. ---- Gibson, Wycombe and the EFL will not backdown - they need to save face. None of the potential buyers are willing to take on the club while there is the risk of payouts of unknown dimensions --> Impasse (Aside and first up, I do not want to give Gibson a penny but we have to be practical remember) So.... We agree to go to arbitration to settle the Boro and Wycombe "claims" However, so that we can complete the takeover promptly, all three clubs agree a maximum amount of "winnings" (we can win costs). I don't know an amount, say 5 or 10 million in each case. That gives certainty to prospective buyers of the club. If Derby were to lose at tribunal (who knows, I don't) then at least the buyers would know the maximum that they would have to shell out. They can then decide on that basis whether they're in or out regards bidding for the club. We can all move forward. Hallelujah We owe them nothing, absolutely duck all, don’t settle on anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Both clubs withdraw claims with the option to restart once ownership is completed. Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black ('n' White) Sheep Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 As you've already alluded to @IslandExile - get 'Boro and Wycombe reps in the same room as us and try to negotiate a 'maximum' compensation amount. If MFC's statement is anything to go by, they'd be open to discussions about reducing it. Bidders then know what they're dealing with as a 'worst case' scenario. Announce a PB that are (hopefully) willing to take the risk... Then take it to arbitration and win as MFC/WWFC haven't got a case. Problem solved... (got a feeling it won't be that easy though!). IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Yani P said: Both clubs withdraw claims with the option to restart once ownership is completed. But buyers won’t buy unless the Boro/Wycombe issue is put to bed first. They’re still at risk for future unlimited costs otherwise. No one’s signing up for that. Norman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, SBW said: 20 odd games with bare bones and survival, or liquidation? I honestly don't see what the other solution is? Lawrence goes for 500k-1m and considering his wages are discussed as being between 25-37k per week, that's a combined income and saving of between 1.5m - 1.8m. If it is £5m needed. That's down to potentially £3.2-3.5m. Who else is out of contract in the summer? Roos, Byrne... there are others. Or if you can get it done in one hit with a Knight sale, then go for it. Although ideally sell the out of contract players and make the money/savings that way, so the big assets can be sold under stronger terms when a PB is named. The squad could agree to take a 4 month reduction in wages which would drastically reduce the wage bill. Perhaps more for those on the big dollars. As long as it's voluntary can't see there would be an issue. Would make another statement in the eyes of the public as well. Its not unknown in business, I've taken a 20 % pay cut in the past to ensure others stay in work. IslandExile and SBW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AutoWindscreens Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 41 minutes ago, i-Ram said: I gave this a little thought, but then decided I would be better off spending my next 45 minutes watching Pointless. How was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Does Morris still have a stake in candy crush. Just been sold for 50 billion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AutoWindscreens said: How was it? Brill. One of the questions in the last round was to name a pointless FA Cup winner between 1901 and 1999. I got 3 pointless answers. Bury, Burnley and the mighty Rams ? Edited January 18, 2022 by i-Ram angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, AutoWindscreens said: How was it? Like a broken pencil AutoWindscreens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rufus Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I was going to suggest tossing up but Gibson being such a ****** he would win hands down, up, down, up, down, up ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Tup Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 54 minutes ago, SBW said: I think an extension to show proof of funds will likely happen. But I think Q probably need to take some action evidencing they are doing their best to do so, not just sitting and hoping it all falls into place... I have my doubts on that because the only obvious method of improving finances is selling players. The transfer window won’t stay open for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Give Boro and Wycombe the £8.3m they refused to give us. They withdraw all claims. CBRammette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, sage said: Give Boro and Wycombe the £8.3m they refused to give us. They withdraw all claims. Give the litigious bankers Boro and Wycombe nothing. Make them take the new owners to court - how much do you think they'll lose in costs. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Give the litigious bankers Boro and Wycombe nothing. Make them take the new owners to court - how much do you think they'll lose in costs. pragmatic? it's EFL money not ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Eddie said: EFL grant Derby the £8m loan they gave everyone else to mitigate covid-19 losses. Derby have £8m to see out the season. Bravo Eddie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 49 minutes ago, TexasRam said: We owe them nothing, absolutely duck all, don’t settle on anything. But then no takeover….just get through to the end of the season if we have the funds?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, i-Ram said: Brill. One of the questions in the last round was to name a pointless FA Cup winner between 1901 and 1999. I got 3 pointless answers. Bury, Burnley and the mighty Rams ? Yes cant believe some of those were pointless - who on earth do they ask! i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AutoWindscreens Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, i-Ram said: Brill. One of the questions in the last round was to name a pointless FA Cup winner between 1901 and 1999. I got 3 pointless answers. Bury, Burnley and the mighty Rams ? Very satisfying. No doubt vindicating your decision to watch it instead of contemplating how to satisfy Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Will never happen but how about a proper public apology from Mel as a start. Costs nothing but Mel's pride. Sometimes people look as if money is everything but it really isnt as its got too personal to them. Or Mel personally offers an amount representing playoff profit to Gibson in full and final settlement of this and any future claim against Derby. Also offers an amount to Wycombe. Saves the club he loves (?) and the legal costs to the club. but this is personal and Mel needs to face up to it and help jimtastic56 and Premier ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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