Turk Thrust Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 23 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said: yeah Margaret Thatcher, Hillary Clinton, Christina Kirchner etc. etc. never exhibited any of those traits... nor Angela Merkel, Indira Ghandi, Mrs Bandanaraike………. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 In such an emergency situation, the EFL give a week's deadline to assess the claims of Boro and Wycombe. They determine the claims are baseless. Derby announce a preferred bidder, retain most players and exit administration with a fighting chance. IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinton1884 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 the pragmatic solution is to accept the inevitable and form a new fan owned club in the non league. Then build from there. Best case at present is a new owner in league one. An owner who might well turn out to be poor. Mike Ashley sees Derby as a business opportunity. No fan representation either. All this effort to save a crock of crap......which could be better spent on a positive new start. Look at Wimbledon.....started from nothing and now in the division we'll likely be in next year. We could tell Mel Morris to stick his stadium up his arse. Real fans would watch Derby in any division. The prize is never to be the play thing of an owner...and you enjoy the ride back up. The only draw back is the time it would take......however there are no guarantees of progress if there was new ownership and we've bankrupted ourselves spending over 10 years in the same division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, Hinton1884 said: the pragmatic solution is to accept the inevitable and form a new fan owned club in the non league. Then build from there. Best case at present is a new owner in league one. An owner who might well turn out to be poor. Mike Ashley sees Derby as a business opportunity. No fan representation either. All this effort to save a crock of crap......which could be better spent on a positive new start. Look at Wimbledon.....started from nothing and now in the division we'll likely be in next year. We could tell Mel Morris to stick his stadium up his arse. Real fans would watch Derby in any division. The prize is never to be the play thing of an owner...and you enjoy the ride back up. The only draw back is the time it would take......however there are no guarantees of progress if there was new ownership and we've bankrupted ourselves spending over 10 years in the same division. Set up in a new league with Bury FC, any defunct teams and maybe some franchise US teams and get something new going- breakaway league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: Set up in a new league with Bury FC, any defunct teams and maybe some franchise US teams and get something new going- breakaway league Kinda like the European Super League but instead of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus and Manchester United, it will be: Derby County AFC Bury AFC Ilkeston Town Kentucky Rangers Second-11 TheresOnlyWanChope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Hinton1884 said: the pragmatic solution is to accept the inevitable and form a new fan owned club in the non league. Then build from there. Best case at present is a new owner in league one. An owner who might well turn out to be poor. Mike Ashley sees Derby as a business opportunity. No fan representation either. All this effort to save a crock of crap......which could be better spent on a positive new start. Look at Wimbledon.....started from nothing and now in the division we'll likely be in next year. We could tell Mel Morris to stick his stadium up his arse. Real fans would watch Derby in any division. The prize is never to be the play thing of an owner...and you enjoy the ride back up. The only draw back is the time it would take......however there are no guarantees of progress if there was new ownership and we've bankrupted ourselves spending over 10 years in the same division. That's the solution if they turn out the lights which we're still 11 days away from. Maybe it's something that needs to be discussed soon so any potential phoenix club arrangement can be up and running as quickly as possible. A ground sharing option with a local non-league or chesterfield/burton type of club could be arranged I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said: That's the solution if they turn out the lights which we're still 11 days away from. Maybe it's something that needs to be discussed soon so any potential phoenix club arrangement can be up and running as quickly as possible. A ground sharing option with a local non-league or chesterfield/burton type of club could be arranged I'm sure. Or we could concentrate on staying in the championship # WFTTE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, Foreveram said: Or we could concentrate on staying in the championship # WFTTE. That's obviously the optimal solution but given we are 11 days away from it all crashing down on us it's a horrible prospect maybe some key fans should briefly entertain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Unfortunately we need a new owner to settle.. As dirty as it is a settlement gets us out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, alexxxxx said: Unfortunately we need a new owner to settle.. As dirty as it is a settlement gets us out of this. Based on Toby Perkins comments yesterday the amounts that Boro and Wycombe are looking for are likely far too high for any prospective owner to entertain. This doesn’t go away without someone, somehow, removing the parasite/vampire clubs from the equation entirely. The easiest way to achieve this is by the EFL determining them as not being football creditors. With Pube-head’s finger on the “sue the EFL” trigger though they’re never going to do that. Which leaves it on Quantuma, they’re going to have to push this through the courts to seek a legal ruling to kick those claims out. The problem there, again, is that it’s likely that would have MFC bullying the EFL into expelling us from the league for “going rogue”. All of this stems from MFC having the EFL over a barrel. That’s another thing that an independent regulator needs to address when they’re installed. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Not a solution to our specific problem, but one for the wider issue of owners overspending to the point of calamity - remove owners’ liability shield. Make them personally responsible and accountable. WestStandStartTheBounce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Not advocating at all but is a NUCLEAR CLUB SAVE option to accept relegation if the vulture clubs dropped their claims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Not advocating at all but is a NUCLEAR CLUB SAVE option to accept relegation if the vulture clubs dropped their claims? Honestly don’t think that’s enough. When the EFL dropped their statement last Friday(?) I thought that was their endgame, but it’s clear that Pube-head is hell bent on our total destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 What if MBorogh says give me Knight for free transfer and “I’ll drop it” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: What if MBorogh says give me Knight for free transfer and “I’ll drop it” tell em to go forth and multiply. BriggRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: tell em to go forth and multiply. Even if that means liquidation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Even if that means liquidation? If they'd do it for Jason knight they'd do it for less. I'd even tell them "you get knight transfer fee as your settlement but he gets sold in the market" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 24 minutes ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: What if MBorogh says give me Knight for free transfer and “I’ll drop it” Counter offer of "we'll accept an offer of £0 for Knight in exchange for you dropping it"... only for Knight to stick two fingers up at Gibson ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, StaffsRam said: Based on Toby Perkins comments yesterday the amounts that Boro and Wycombe are looking for are likely far too high for any prospective owner to entertain. This doesn’t go away without someone, somehow, removing the parasite/vampire clubs from the equation entirely. The easiest way to achieve this is by the EFL determining them as not being football creditors. With Pube-head’s finger on the “sue the EFL” trigger though they’re never going to do that. Which leaves it on Quantuma, they’re going to have to push this through the courts to seek a legal ruling to kick those claims out. The problem there, again, is that it’s likely that would have MFC bullying the EFL into expelling us from the league for “going rogue”. All of this stems from MFC having the EFL over a barrel. That’s another thing that an independent regulator needs to address when they’re installed. The EFL are more than just Boro & Wycombe. Call an EGM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Counter offer of "we'll accept an offer of £0 for Knight in exchange for you dropping it"... only for Knight to stick two fingers up at Gibson ? Classic Del Boy move that, get them to give us immunity then smash them with that ? RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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