MaltRam Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 This is George Thorne cubed. Please be over soon. Ramrob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, roboto said: He's checking contracts He's checking it twice He's gonna by DCFC At the right price Daaaaaaaavid Clowes is comin' to town Daaaaaaaavid Clowes is comin' to town David Clowes is comin' to town Good effort, but doesn't quite fit. Needs a tweak... If I may be so bold... He's checked the contract He's now checked it twice He's gonna buy Derby For just the right price etc, etc... Once it's done, we can change it for the terraces... He checked the contract He then named his price He bought Derby County For just the right price Daaaaaaaavid Clowes has come in, to town. Daaaaaaaavid Clowes has come in to town Daaaaaaaavid Clowes has come in to town David Clowes has come in, to town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarneOut Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 40 minutes ago, StarterForTen said: Not sure I agree with you on that. For the first time in a decade, the club has the ability to set its outgoings budget to what it wants to be as there is very little forward obligations right now. The danger of doing that is that is it will limit the competitivity of the playing squad, which in turn, is likely to have the knock-on effect of reducing revenue. Dicey game to play. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Yeah, but it wasn't just that though was it? There was all putting a roof on it, having it as a venue to host concerts and events during the football season and planning for redevelopment of the east stand to include restaurants and shops and so on... And the previous much lower valuation was only what 5/6 years out of date? Like I said, I believe there was some cleverness went into it, but clever enough to hold water. Seriously, go and read the EFL written reasons again. None of the roof/redevelopment etc stuff was factored in. It was valued at ~£80m purely on the stadium as it existed right then. And that was based on extrapolating from the costs to construct equivalent stadiums at that time. The rise in costs is purely a function of rising construction costs. Just compare the amounts spend (and the years they were built) building, e.g. 'Boro's stadium, to Cardiff's Stadium to Brighton's stadium and you'll see a very similar pattern to the value of our stadium. Eatonram and Crewton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, ClowePow said: The danger of doing that is that is it will limit the competitivity of the playing squad, which in turn, is likely to have the knock-on effect of reducing revenue. Dicey game to play. Paradox of thrift as they say. WarneOut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: Seriously, go and read the EFL written reasons again. None of the roof/redevelopment etc stuff was factored in. It was valued at ~£80m purely on the stadium as it existed right then. And that was based on extrapolating from the costs to construct equivalent stadiums at that time. The rise in costs is purely a function of rising construction costs. Just compare the amounts spend (and the years they were built) building, e.g. 'Boro's stadium, to Cardiff's Stadium to Brighton's stadium and you'll see a very similar pattern to the value of our stadium. You're right. I just still don't trust anything from the Mel and Stephen show to be "straightforward, on the level and 100% as advertised" for me it all has the Tony Blair "most people think I'm a pretty straight kinda guy" ring to it. (Yeah, Tony Blair actually said that... delusional) GB SPORTS and angieram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, ClowePow said: ... competitivity... Felt the need to check. Sorry to have doubted you, etc, etc! ? WarneOut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: Re: the stadium, bear in mind that Clowes hasn't paid for the stadium, he's paid for the company that owns the stadium. An important distinction when you'll have fans bleating on about 'but how is it worth £80m when he only paid £23m?' A very good bit of business which I assume has saved a few £s Animal is a Ram and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 To pass time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: Re: the stadium, bear in mind that Clowes hasn't paid for the stadium, he's paid for the company that owns the stadium. An important distinction when you'll have fans bleating on about 'but how is it worth £80m when he only paid £23m?' What does this actually mean mate I assume he paid MM not MSD Cheap bargain from Mel then ! Edited June 30, 2022 by Curtains Added RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarneOut Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Curtains said: What does this actually mean mate Effectively, it means he's bought the stadium, but owns it via a company that he owns, rather than him owning it personally. Basically protects him from being held personally liable for any debts on it, liabilities caused by etc and gives him some options for things which he could do Legally if he decides he doesn't want it at some point in the future - such as liquidating the company... Edited June 30, 2022 by ClowePow Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Hospital appt at 3. No internet access/phone reception. Bound to be then innit? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Curtains said: What does this actually mean mate I assume he paid MM not MSD I'd expect that. I'm not sure if it could be a condition of the sale that Mel pays his personal guarantee to MSD or it's on trust that is what Mel will do... Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Curtains said: To pass time Bleedin ell, Just because the EFL brought someone in to value PP and used Morecambe's ground as it's double they think they are part of the Admin process. PS anyone going to Morecambe on the 10th Sept...go visit the Chieftain Hotel pub...very good, Drank in their a few times, Just off the front, Across the road is where they sell the best pies in football...Potts Pies, Sold at Morecambe FC also Premier ram and Curtains 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Talk sport saying Liam was doing player deals last night, sounds like a few ready to be announced Bald Eagle's Barmy Army, Caerphilly Ram, Wsm-ram and 23 others 9 2 3 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammeister Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Topram said: Talk sport saying Liam was doing player deals last night, sounds like a few ready to be announced I did wonder whether some new players have been training with the existing lads as I notice the usual ‘first day of training’ videos are conspicuously absent on Rams TV. Topram and Derby4Me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, ram59 said: I don't think that it's going to happen today, as it's a bank holiday in DR Congo for their independence Day.? Embargo, embargo, they lift them in the Congo? WarneOut and Steve How Hard? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 When this goes through we should feel ourselves very very lucky, this has been building in football for years, and as everyone has been telling us, a big club has to go under before anything changes. Thanks to Mr. Clowes it won’t be us, but there are probably 10 - 15 clubs who are in far more debt than their club is worth. The next one could be the one to go pop. Dai Capp, HedgeEnder, Jackal and 6 others 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, StaffsRam said: Hospital appt at 3. No internet access/phone reception. Bound to be then innit? ? don't worry, when you've had the Op, and return as StaffsEwe, you can celebrate your new breasts with a toast to David Clowes Premier ram, May Contain Nuts, inter politics and 14 others 1 1 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Topram said: Talk sport saying Liam was doing player deals last night, sounds like a few ready to be announced Is that Talksport? Or something you read on Twitter that someone may have heard someone guessing at on Talksport?!? Bill Curry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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