Jimbo Ram Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Of course, you're correct it is extremely difficult to be ethical (and I fail miserably) but that shouldn't stop anyone from striving towards that goal - in all aspects of their life. Difficult in the current climate when we have been set such a bad example by those at the top ??? IslandExile and Ram-Alf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Andicis said: What exactly do they have to answer for? Some people appear to have confused the administrator's job of keeping the club running on a day to day basis whilst they find someone to take it over with that of a bona-fida club owner / chairman, expecting them to be all things to all people. Constant updates to the players, fans etc. It's funny to read people complain about a lack of transparency and poor communication from Quantuma and (currently) Kirchner while blowing the horn for Mike Ashley. What's one of the biggest complaints Newcastle fans have about Ashley's regime after all the infrastructure stuff? Terrible communication, keeping them in the dark on the running of the club, failing to give them any reasons for decisions made on the footballing side. Various reported takeover attempts shrouded in mystery. It'd all change if he took over here though, obviously. Edited June 9, 2022 by Coconut's Beard LazloW, Andicis, Kathcairns and 5 others 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Of course, you're correct it is extremely difficult to be ethical (and I fail miserably) but that shouldn't stop anyone from striving towards that goal - in all aspects of their life. Indeed. But where is a line drawn and how to know when to draw it? What do we know about CK btw? Look down his old Twitter thread, and even his new one and there are fairly disconcerting views on display. IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipleyRich Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 On 08/06/2022 at 16:05, RoyMac5 said: When today did he say what you quoted about Q and MA? Sorry, only just caught up with this. It was said on a Midlands News Bulletin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Coconut's Beard said: Some people appear to have confused the administrator's job of keeping the club running on a day to day basis whilst they find someone to take it over with that of a bona-fida club owner / chairman, expecting them to be all things to all people. Constant updates to the players, fans etc. It's funny to read people complain about a lack of transparency and poor communication from Quantuma and (currently) Kirchner while blowing the horn for Mike Ashley. What's one of the biggest complaints Newcastle fans have about Ashley's regime after all the infrastructure stuff? Terrible communication, keeping them in the dark on the running of the club, failing to give them any reasons for decisions made on the footballing side. Various reported takeover attempts shrouded in mystery. It'd all change if he took over here though, obviously. Yep. The administrators are doing their job the way their legal obligations state they should. Nothing else is relevant to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Indeed. But where is a line drawn and how to know when to draw it? What do we know about CK btw? Look down his old Twitter thread, and even his new one and there are fairly disconcerting views on display. Mean tweets or paying workers less than minimum wage? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Just now, Andicis said: Yep. The administrators are doing their job the way their legal obligations state they should. Nothing else is relevant to them. Except aren't they supposed to keep us trading as a going concern? David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Just now, Andicis said: Mean tweets or paying workers less than minimum wage? Who does what? Current examples. David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, IslandExile said: You have no limits other than not MM? Abramovich? Saudi's? Sorry meant those mentioned so far!! IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Clearly none of us want the club to be liquidated. I can understand people wanting Ashley rather than us being wound up. I do myself. But a vocal group seem to prefer Ashley to CK, even without this latest delay. What I don't understand is why the Appleby consortium isn't the second to CK or even the first choice for folks. Kathcairns, Carnero, Ken Tram and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUTSIDER Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Went to games under maxwell , three amigos and one of your own who has taken Derby to brink of extinction.... so I be going if Ashley, ck or who ever takes over... with or without Rooney David Graham Brown, Carnero, LeedsCityRam and 3 others 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andicis Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Except aren't they supposed to keep us trading as a going concern? We are trading as going concern. They are getting the best deal for creditors. David Graham Brown and nogbad van 50 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Just now, Andicis said: We are trading as going concern. They are getting the best deal for creditors. How much longer with 5 contracted players? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JABBA Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, G-Ram said: People not going to games if Ashley takes over. Nonsense, if he comes in, gets a few signings, we go on a good promotion run the ground will be packed We don’t need those fans, Pride park will be better without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 minute ago, IslandExile said: Clearly none of us want the club to be liquidated. I can understand people wanting Ashley rather than us being wound up. I do myself. But a vocal group seem to prefer Ashley to CK, even without this latest delay. What I don't understand is why the Appleby consortium isn't the second to CK or even the first choice for folks. I think i read on here he was 2nd but no idea if that is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 I want to make it absolutely clear that I would take Saudi money at Derby County, short of the leader of ISIS himself, I’m really not picky at this point. RoyMac5, ColonelBlimp, DesertRam and 11 others 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Just now, RoyMac5 said: How much longer with 5 contracted players? They aren't bloody miracle workers Roy. None of this is the fault of Quantuma, and they are doing their duty. If Mike Ashley wanted to buy Derby as much as you want him to, maybe he should have made a less rubbish offer? FlyBritishMidland, Kathcairns, Carnero and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Andicis said: They aren't bloody miracle workers Roy. None of this is the fault of Quantuma, and they are doing their duty. If Mike Ashley wanted to buy Derby as much as you want him to, maybe he should have made a less rubbish offer? When you think back over the stuff Q has put out, and wonder why some of the bidders (not necessarily MA) have been turned down. When you wonder how surprised you will be. I think some of it IS the fault of Q. As for MA making a less rubbish offer - Q didn't seem keen to engage with him. They preferred CK with his 3 year deal. EtoileSportiveDeDerby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Just now, RoyMac5 said: When you think back over the stuff Q has put out, and wonder why some of the bidders (not necessarily MA) have been turned down. When you wonder how surprised you will be. I think some of it IS the fault of Q. As for MA making a less rubbish offer - Q didn't seem keen to engage with him. They preferred CK with his 3 year deal. They are turned down because their offer to the creditors is lower. That's it. They are legally obligated to get the best deal for creditors. They are doing this. FlyBritishMidland, RipleyRich, Carnero and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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