BucksRam Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Archied said: Amazing how quickly and easily fear of normal living can be instilled True but having both had covid (pre jabs and public awareness) which put my wife in hospital on a nebuliser, I guess it put us on the back foot. That said life is moving on. therealhantsram and ariotofmyown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 58 minutes ago, BucksRam said: True but having both had covid (pre jabs and public awareness) which put my wife in hospital on a nebuliser, I guess it put us on the back foot. That said life is moving on. Wasn’t a criticism, I just find it extremely sad that the fear campaign waged on the public has destroyed the joys of living for many many people which will probably never return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Archied said: Wasn’t a criticism, I just find it extremely sad that the fear campaign waged on the public has destroyed the joys of living for many many people which will probably never return Early days still I suppose. I was anxious at first being around people when things started opening up but that has now almost gone. @BucksRamseems to have a valid reason for being wary and but I don’t know anyone who is “living in fear” based on propaganda. I’m not saying they don’t exist, just that some people will take longer than others to get back to normality, so I disagree that it will never return for many people. ariotofmyown and BucksRam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Archied said: Wasn’t a criticism, I just find it extremely sad that the fear campaign waged on the public has destroyed the joys of living for many many people which will probably never return Different perspectives though. For me, I feel I have learned a lot about enjoying lifes 'simple pleasures' and how actually I feel happier without the pressure to fill weekends with trips, activities and socialising. For me this IS freedom! I have discovered how little I need to be happy and what is truly important in life. ? Comrade 86, Stive Pesley, i-Ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Wolfie said: Early days still I suppose. I was anxious at first being around people when things started opening up but that has now almost gone. @BucksRamseems to have a valid reason for being wary and but I don’t know anyone who is “living in fear” based on propaganda. I’m not saying they don’t exist, just that some people will take longer than others to get back to normality, so I disagree that it will never return for many people. Yeah we were officially shielding for months but are getting back to normal. Not as a result of propaganda though. I guess normal going forward for some will look different. For us we do aim to get back to where we were, but in stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 10 hours ago, Wolfie said: Early days still I suppose. I was anxious at first being around people when things started opening up but that has now almost gone. @BucksRamseems to have a valid reason for being wary and but I don’t know anyone who is “living in fear” based on propaganda. I’m not saying they don’t exist, just that some people will take longer than others to get back to normality, so I disagree that it will never return for many people. I hope your right , I hope we return to doing the simple things in life without having to think twice and not feeling that other people are a danger to us ( I personally don’t ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 9 hours ago, BucksRam said: Yeah we were officially shielding for months but are getting back to normal. Not as a result of propaganda though. I guess normal going forward for some will look different. For us we do aim to get back to where we were, but in stages. From what you say I can fully understand you have had to have a degree of caution BucksRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 10 hours ago, Archied said: Wasn’t a criticism, I just find it extremely sad that the fear campaign waged on the public has destroyed the joys of living for many many people which will probably never return The guy has had actual experience rather than led by propaganda, why is there a need to spin every story to meet an agenda Eddie, Comrade 86, ariotofmyown and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Spanish said: The guy has had actual experience rather than led by propaganda, why is there a need to spin every story to meet an agenda Is it really an agenda? It has been admitted that the Government tried to scare the population into compliance, its bound to have left many with an irrational fear of the virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: Is it really an agenda? It has been admitted that the Government tried to scare the population into compliance, its bound to have left many with an irrational fear of the virus. the context is someone has personal reasons to limit the risk of infection not that he has been scared by press articles. But you know that. ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: Is it really an agenda? It has been admitted that the Government tried to scare the population into compliance, its bound to have left many with an irrational fear of the virus. Is it irrational to be wary of something that has a (non-vaccinated) death rate around 2%? Edited August 18, 2021 by Eddie ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Spanish said: the context is someone has personal reasons to limit the risk of infection not that he has been scared by press articles. But you know that. Having already caught it once and having been double jabbed, I'd imagine there is very little reason to be scared of it. 1 hour ago, Eddie said: Is it irrational to be wary of something that has a (non-vaccinated) death rate around 2%? If you're vaccinated against it, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Having already caught it once and having been double jabbed, I'd imagine there is very little reason to be scared of it. If you're vaccinated against it, yes. According to Eddie s figures 98 % of people have nothing to fear from it ( before vaccination) but rather than give the 2% the information and help they need to stay as safe as possible we terrify the whole population Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 24 minutes ago, Archied said: According to Eddie s figures 98 % of people have nothing to fear from it ( before vaccination) but rather than give the 2% the information and help they need to stay as safe as possible we terrify the whole population They need to make us scared....follow the money....?♂️?♂️?♂️ (Just cutting out the next 2 pages where you get all the same challenges as usual, then write something like the above that you think is the final word) Archied 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 43 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: They need to make us scared....follow the money....?♂️?♂️?♂️ (Just cutting out the next 2 pages where you get all the same challenges as usual, then write something like the above that you think is the final word) Good your finally on board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Completely voids the case for vaccine passports imo QuitYourJibbaJivin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 26 minutes ago, maxjam said: Completely voids the case for vaccine passports imo Equally, it validates the continuation of mask-wearing in crowded indoor environments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 hours ago, maxjam said: Completely voids the case for vaccine passports imo and increases the case for vaccinating as many people as possible, as it appears that the only real benefit of the jab is to prevent serious illness and/or death - so if we want to return to "normal" and not face endless lockdowns we have to take the steps necessary to relegate this to a "highly infectious but not very serious" disease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 hours ago, maxjam said: Completely voids the case for vaccine passports imo So I'm not killing people after all? How disappointing. Andrew3000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Eddie said: Equally, it validates the continuation of mask-wearing in crowded indoor environments. If you believe a piece of on off well handled piece of paper or cloth keeps you safe?♂️ Edited August 19, 2021 by Archied Angry Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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