One Andy Weimann Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Derby played well enough today, but the problems are obvious. Rooney takes too much control, which makes you easy to defend, particularly as the movement in the final third is limited. Defensively Derby are ok, but one goal is enough for at least a draw. City had a few Covid positives recently and several players who were on international duty and consequently were content to defend deep. All in all not exactly thrilling but we will take the points and move on. Good Luck for the rest of the season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Is Rooney the football equivalent of Dennis Waterman? He picks the team, takes the corners and free kicks, and stars in every episode for the full duration. He'll be re-recording Steve Bloomers Watchin next. As an individual, he played well today, but I'm not convinced it was for the benefit of the team overall. I don't think I saw him do anything Knight or even Bird couldn't do in the same circumstances, yet his inclusion meant pushing Knight out wide, which is such a waste. Playing Rooney in that role, in this system, means accepting 2 deep lying players in a midfield 3, which is never going to be productive attacking wise. Bird was good, but this system demanded a lot from the other midfielder, and Holmes just isn't up to the job. Constantly a yard off, poor anticipation and he's weak in his challenges, his short passing in particular is woeful, always a few feet away from his target, and almost never in front of them. As a squad man, I can see his worth, but not as a regular starting player. I'll leave the rest for later, Lawrence especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, One Andy Weimann said: Rooney takes too much control, which makes you easy to defend, particularly as the movement in the final third is limited. His passing, particularly across field, was excellent. He kept the ball moving well. In the final third Holmes was poor, lost the ball often. Waghorn couldn't...etc and Lawrence again made wrong decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Van Rammeister said: No. We need a real one. We need to string together wins. Someone to pull the strings. If we string along like this we will need stringent measures to survive in this league. So much for string theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Well I thought we looked comfortable in and out of possession, dominant throughout and although they scored late it was a mere consolation. Result never in doubt. But then I was watching England v Ireland in the autumn nations Cup ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rev said: Constantly a yard off, poor anticipation and he's weak in his challenges, his short passing in particular is woeful, always a few feet away from his target... This is utter nonsense. He was none of that today. Edit: and unlike some of the midfield he was always available for a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Grumpy Git said: Marriott has been sent back with an injury apparently? I’d still play him ahead of Waghorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Aralliss Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 35 minutes ago, CBRammette said: Much more positive today Sorry for the edit, but positive is not losing 0-1. If it is, then we are truly ducked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinnitdough Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, One Andy Weimann said: Derby played well enough today, but the problems are obvious. Rooney takes too much control, which makes you easy to defend, particularly as the movement in the final third is limited. Defensively Derby are ok, but one goal is enough for at least a draw. City had a few Covid positives recently and several players who were on international duty and consequently were content to defend deep. All in all not exactly thrilling but we will take the points and move on. Good Luck for the rest of the season! What points? We got zero as usual ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, Gritstone Ram said: That sounds like a terrible decision was it when he got pulled back when running into the box. What explanation can the ref give for that. The only thing I can think is we were in a better goal scoring position. Only thing i can think of is Ref thought it was outside the box so waved play on, but it was inside. Still poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 57 minutes ago, James Pond said: Why shouldn't we, There's a reason we're bottom it's called "we're not very good", Another clean sheet from the attack, The same players and some of the same coaches still can't find a formula, Losing can become a habit, This group of players are paid hansomely, Maybe they just can't be Ar**d. Come in you know exactly what I mean but are being purposely obtuse. Player for player this side should not be 24th. They are good enough to be clear of relegation. My point is that they have the quality but they’re not showing it. They are not putting in performances they are capable of and they need to really be asking difficult questions of themselves. 2 weeks of giggling in training and having the ‘shackles’ taken off saw little improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 So come on then own up ..... who was it this week that said “there are there for the taking” every week someone pipes up with it ... then come 4.45pm were looking at another defeat If they’re there for the taking wtf does that make us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Only Mel could come up with joint managers. One on the pitch and one on the bench. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Ruud Aralliss said: Sorry for the edit, but positive is not losing 0-1. If it is, then we are truly ducked. Sign of the times. Nearly not losing is a good result. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Aralliss Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Who's up front? Not really the point. I’m sure there might be at least a couple of players willing to make a run with him, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimsbyRam Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, ramsbottom said: More that they were made too late. Should’ve changed things around the hour mark. Personally I would’ve hooked Holmes at half time and put Sibley on. So many moves broke down via him. Seems totally shot of confidence. Thank Christ for him there aren’t crowds at the moment Agree with the Holmes observations. I guess the problem with timing was that 0-0 away from home today with them not really troubling us would have been a good starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Ruud Aralliss said: Not really the point. I’m sure there might be at least a couple of players willing to make a run with him, no? Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, RamNut said: Only Mel could come up with joint managers. One on the pitch and one on the bench. ? We will need 44-50 points to stay up so 38 - 44 points needed from 34 games. Looks a lot at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Norman did you want Chips and Gravy or Chips and Beans? I can’t read Liam’s writing, he’s left handed and smudged it look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Mystified at the praise for Rooney. He did what he normally does...sits in, sprays a few telegraphed Hollywood balls out to the wing & a few easy pop passes across our back 4. Contrary to the presser yesterday, don't remember one instance where he 'hurt the opposition'. He was OK, nothing more. Bird was much better. Great to have his conposure in midfield & he was looking to move the ball with purpose. We only really need one 'tempo' midfielder in the side & Max gets my vote everytime. Overall, it felt very much like previous games. Not enough bodies in the box, consistently poor delivery/poor decision making & no noticeable improvements in the press or forward movement. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Was particularly alarmed at how dominant we were for first 30 mins of the second half but were still incapable of opening them up. Bristol noticeably became quite casual at the back as the half wore on, probably as they realised just how inept we were. The sucker punch was totally inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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