Mick Brolly Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 One things for certain when both at full strength we'll batter them and they will know it deep down the six fingered freaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 minute ago, AndyinLiverpool said: There's clearly nobody in an offside position in the line of sight for the Forest goal. Clearly. It is less clear with our disallowed goal. Waghorn jumps. That's influenced it I'm sure. What?! What have you been drinking? There’s someone right in front of Marshall?! He’s as much in the line of sight as Waghorn was. Neither really affected the ability to make a save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I can understand why our second "goal" was disallowed. Let's not try and detract from the fact that it was a very good performance and if Shinnie scores it's a non argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, YouRams said: Why is VAR not used in championship? The keeper doesn’t hesitate at all from Waghorn watching it back he’s at full stretch going into the corner the shots going, never interference. ............. and Arter nearly trod on Marshall's toes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool As Custard Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 From my perspective Rooney doesnt get back in that team We have to go to a back 4 - especially at home. There will be some games we need a 5-2-3 especially against the top teams away from home. Sibley looked tasty when he came on tonight Best XI for me..... Marshall Byrne Davies Clarke Buchanan Shinnie Knight Lawrence Sibley Jowziak Waghorn In tough games away from home drop Sibley & bring in Wisdom/Bielik for a back 5 Ibe can come off the bench until he is fully fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Just watched the disallowed goal again. Def not offside. Keeper saw the shot, and line of sight. Typical of our luck. But let's focus on the pluses. Every game since Blackburn has seen improvement. Things are looking up. Stay positive peeps. We're getting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Just now, LazloW said: If we went back to the 'old' interpretation of offside - which I think we should - then both goals would have been disallowed. All of this 'interfering with play', different phases and the rest of it, brings an unhelpful element of subjectivity into the equation. When I were a lad, it didn't matter where you were standing - if you were offside, you were offside. I'd like a return to that, because it removes this type of issue. Interfering with play is also not something a linesman can judge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: It's not as clear. It just isn't. If Waghorn doesn't jump, that goal gets given, I'm convinced. Line of site my arse, your spot on if Waghorn doesn’t jump it stands as he is to the right of the ball. The Forest keeper has clear site of the strike and is at full stretch (when it went in) and can’t reach the ball. Should’ve stood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 minute ago, ViewsFromTheMiddle said: Should’ve been a goal but you can see why from the linesman’s view. It can't be up to the linesman because he can't see the line of sight which the referee does see. The ref should overrule in this case, knowing Waggy was outside of the near post in terms of Joz shooting inside the far post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Cocu giving it big to the ref. Get at 'em Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripperg-ram Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 We play like that every game, with incremental improvements, we have nothing to worry about. Tom Lawrence had a great game. We were all reminded that we can’t win with 5 x 19 year olds on the pitch, every game, even if Mel wants us to. Jozwiak is getting better with every game and will be a good signing. Curtis Davies has a presence as captain that this team needs. Feels like we are individually the most skillful we’ve been in a very long time. Just needs someone to gild it together... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Well said Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Rampant said: Marshall - 7.5 Byrne - 7.5 Buchanan - 9 (MOM) Wisdom - 7 Clarke - 7 Davies - 9 Knight - 7.5 Shinnie - 8.5 Lawrence - 7.5 Joswiak - 8.5 Waghorn - 8.5 Much better all round performance and you can see how our ceiling is so much higher than Forest's. With Bielik, Ibe, Rooney and Duncan still to figure we must keep faith in Cocu. Great to read positive comments on here too. Bogle and Lowe leave and Byrne and Buchanan take their place. Genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I prefer the Brian Clough interpretation of "interfering with play" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Their goal rightfully counted. Ours was incorrectly overturned. Frustrating, but refs are human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewsFromTheMiddle Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Carl Sagan said: It can't be up to the linesman because he can't see the line of sight which the referee does see. The ref should overrule in this case, knowing Waggy was outside of the near post in terms of Joz shooting inside the far post. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincsRam Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 So our 2nd goal was disallowed by the linesman .... it has been said by the commentators for Waghorn being in the line of sight of the goalie.... How can the lino see that? he is in line with the side of play and not in line of Waghorn and the goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 minute ago, AndyinLiverpool said: It's not as clear. It just isn't. If Waghorn doesn't jump, that goal gets given, I'm convinced. I think it would be given if we had VAR but the official has to give it one way or the other. There is no way the linesman can see if Waghorn is in the line of sight and interfering with play. Likewise the Forest goal given the linesman could not know the Forest player was not interfering with play. At the least he could have pulled a defender away from the goal scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, SKRam said: Sokay my friend I waited till about 5 before I opened my barrel. Thought there was a delayed reaction, my bad ?♂️ Busted. Was watching on a dodgy stream which was at least two mins behind live. I also have comparable reaction speeds to a Mexican tree sloth and that's when sober! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Listen we've had our fair share of "luck" so far when Pukki put his banana skin boots on so let's not dwell on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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