strawhillram Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Sell a couple of our best players in January and it’s covered☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 10 hours ago, Ramos said: 5 wins in our last 23 games in all comps. 2 in our last 20. 1 In 11 this season. No goals from open play since Birmingham away at the end of last season in the league. Just two goals scored in 8 home games this season in all comps. One point picked up. Times has to be up - as much as I rooted for the guy we can’t keep letting games slip past and making excuses. Those stats are awful for any manager, I’m surprised there’s anyone left who can look at that in black and white and think he will turn it around. Reluctantly I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Just now, StrawHillRam said: Sell a couple of our best players in January and it’s covered☹️ What ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Curtains said: How rich are these new owners because it seems to be in contention ! Just now, Curtains said: What ! The Derby way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Can we not furlough him? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldben Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 If I were cocu I'd want to be fired to get the 4 million payout https://www.google.com/amp/s/footballleagueworld.co.uk/financial-details-emerge-as-Derby-county-consider-phillip-cocu-decision/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 38 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Reluctantly I agree. One mistake in my stat collecting - it was technically 6 wins, in my head I count barrow as a defeat ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 It’s not just a question of whether the new owners can afford to sack cocu, it’s whether our ffp predicament allows us to blow £4m without triggering another transfer embargo or threat of another points deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoooMarkWright Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 I’d be amazed if he’s on 90k a week (although with Morris who knows!). At the time of arrival it was reported that’s Dutch managers in Holland get paid substantially less than the players. So at PSV he wasn’t on a massive wedge. May have changed at Fenerbache but I’d be very surprised - half it and we may be closer to the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 47 minutes ago, RamNut said: It’s not just a question of whether the new owners can afford to sack cocu, it’s whether our ffp predicament allows us to blow £4m without triggering another transfer embargo or threat of another points deduction. We'd still do better with a new manager and a transfer embargo and point deduction. That is how poor Cocu and team are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 2 hours ago, StrawHillRam said: Sell a couple of our best players in January and it’s covered☹️ Hmm. I'm thinking... Maybe Knight and Buchanan, although we wouldn't get a lot. Desperate teams don't. The rest can carry the boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 3 hours ago, GboroRam said: All the people who say he should resign are having a laugh. He presumably still feels he can turn things around. He must have confidence in himself otherwise he'd never become a football manager. Sorry to say it but I fear both Phil and Wayne will cost us an arm and a leg to sack. Unless the new owners have plans to skirt FFP and have the willingness to blow what I guess is something in the vicinity of £5-10m just to pay off those two, I don't see how we can afford to sack anyone, let alone replace them. With Ranieri ? Then get ready to visiting League 1, maybe the likes of Newport, Swindon, Wimbledon, the glamour of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Hmm. I'm thinking... Maybe Knight and Buchanan, although we wouldn't get a lot. Desperate teams don't. The rest can carry the boots. Was thinking Marriott and Forsyth, Lawrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, ziggyram59 said: Then get ready to visiting League 1, maybe the likes of Newport, Swindon, Wimbledon, the glamour of it. He won't resign, I'm sure. He will cost a fortune to sack. Both these are fairly nailed on. If that means we get relegated, get used to the idea. Wishing it was different won't make it go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 3 hours ago, GboroRam said: All the people who say he should resign are having a laugh. He presumably still feels he can turn things around. He must have confidence in himself otherwise he'd never become a football manager. Sorry to say it but I fear both Phil and Wayne will cost us an arm and a leg to sack. Unless the new owners have plans to skirt FFP and have the willingness to blow what I guess is something in the vicinity of £5-10m just to pay off those two, I don't see how we can afford to sack anyone, let alone replace them. With Ranieri ? A cunning alternative might be to put Cocu on gardening leave and project Wassall to first team affairs. So we wouldn't be paying anymore money out as this would be the existing status quo. Reason could be Mel has lost total confidence in the manager or something along those lines. I can't really see any other alternative to get a replacement in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 47 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: A cunning alternative might be to put Cocu on gardening leave and project Wassall to first team affairs. So we wouldn't be paying anymore money out as this would be the existing status quo. Reason could be Mel has lost total confidence in the manager or something along those lines. I can't really see any other alternative to get a replacement in. Wassell would be good for us,even as an interim. And it makes the most financial sense without a doubt. It's funny isn't it tho that we have wassell as a director of football over our academy as such but we don't have that unifying overseeing presence on our first team. And our academy players are all doing outstandingly well on their respective league's. Something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 minute ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: Wassell would be good for us,even as an interim. And it makes the most financial sense without a doubt. It's funny isn't it tho that we have wassell as a director of football over our academy as such but we don't have that unifying overseeing presence on our first team. And our academy players are all doing outstandingly well on their respective league's. Something to think about. It's the closest to a win win scenario that I can think of but am sure there's greater minds out there than mine ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: Wassell would be good for us,even as an interim. And it makes the most financial sense without a doubt. It's funny isn't it tho that we have wassell as a director of football over our academy as such but we don't have that unifying overseeing presence on our first team. And our academy players are all doing outstandingly well on their respective league's. Something to think about. Maybe make Wassall director of all football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 4 hours ago, TexasRam said: Losing Martin and not replacing him, then letting your only recognised out and out forward go out on loan. Leaving you with nothing up front and not scoring goals. You reap what you sow. If you read my post I'm not saying mistakes haven't been made, just there has been several what if moments. Not replacing Martin is a blow but I suspect that might be more down to finances then anything. Letting Mariott go hasn't and won't make a jot of difference. Even if he was still here I'd start above 5 players ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneBiblicalKazim Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 hour ago, reverendo de duivel said: Maybe make Wassall director of all football? Evidently has a decent eye for a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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