Chris_Martin 628 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Didn't play particularly bad tonight but certainly didn't play well enough either. Not sure what it is but something is just not working and the football is too slow and boring. Whenever we had a chance to counter attack in good numbers we slow the play down and the opposition have time to get behind the ball. It has been this way since Cocu took charge. Very few shots on target every game aswell, i'm struggling to see the light at end of tunnel to be honest. Currently thinking if things don't improve by christmas when we should have all our best players up to speed, surely he will have to go? Rammy03, MikeS, taffyram and 5 others 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Chris_Martin 628 Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 Cocu actually thought that was a great performance aswell which is a little concerning to me. does he judge whether its a good performance on how many passes we do rather than shots/chances created? RoyMac5, Edtheram, r_wilcockson and 7 others 4 6 Link to post Share on other sites
RoyMac5 12,413 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: Currently thinking if things don't improve by christmas when we should have all our best players up to speed, surely he will have to go? I think so too. Although it's pretty turgid stuff atm. We only picked up when we were a goal down. For me I lose more confidence in Cocu each game like today. Others see something different though. Finch, Bluedogmaz, Edtheram and 5 others 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong 7,968 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, RoyMac5 said: I think so too. Although it's pretty turgid stuff atm. We only picked up when we were a goal down. For me I lose more confidence in Cocu each game like today. Others see something different though. At the moment we remind me of teams in the relegation zone that we played in our better days....they weren't all that bad,many were quite tidy,but none of them ever looked like they would score goals against us or anyone else. We need to wake up quickly to what is developing here and it's not good. Hector was the best, Ellafella, Rammy03 and 5 others 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Saunder’s hat trick 362 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: Didn't play particularly bad tonight but certainly didn't play well enough either. Not sure what it is but something is just not working and the football is too slow and boring. Whenever we had a chance to counter attack in good numbers we slow the play down and the opposition have time to get behind the ball. It has been this way since Cocu took charge. Very few shots on target every game aswell, i'm struggling to see the light at end of tunnel to be honest. Currently thinking if things don't improve by christmas when we should have all our best players up to speed, surely he will have to go? Christmas for me is the minimum Link to post Share on other sites
Jram 387 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I thought it was a good performance! Lots of promising displays, plenty to be optimistic about Half fan, Hector was the best, JustOneBiblicalKazim and 8 others 5 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites
RoyMac5 12,413 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: At the moment we remind me of teams in the relegation zone that we played in our better days....they weren't all that bad, many were quite tidy, but none of them ever looked like they would score goals against us or anyone else. This is so true. Or newly promoted teams. All playing 'so nearly'. kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong 1 Link to post Share on other sites
bimmerman 454 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Return of the mac...... Finch, dantheram, Ramos and 14 others 9 3 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites
MackworthRamIsGod 7,913 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I thought that was a good performance, I thought we were the better team, but we clearly lacked anything up front. The fact we have only scored 1 goal from open play in 7 competitive games, as well as 3 or 4 friendlies should have everyone worried, a goal scoring striker should have been an absolute priority. People calling Cocu for our transfer activity clearly have no idea how things work at our club, our recruitment team are an absolute shambles and have severely let Cocu down this season. DenmarkRam, minesahartington, Bluedogmaz and 8 others 5 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CBRammette 784 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: I think so too. Although it's pretty turgid stuff atm. We only picked up when we were a goal down. For me I lose more confidence in Cocu each game like today. Others see something different though. I dont think they do. I think people just fed up of constant managerial changes, realise he's had lots to deal with and happy with how the youngsters are starting to come through so Phil given chance. The striker position is worrying, unless they have seen duncan like a young michael owen in training, but that may not be Phil's fault Owd miner 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Chris_Martin 628 Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: I thought that was a good performance, I thought we were the better team, but we clearly lacked anything up front. The fact we have only scored 1 goal from open play in 7 competitive games, as well as 3 or 4 friendlies should have everyone worried, a goal scoring striker should have been an absolute priority. People calling Cocu for our transfer activity clearly have no idea how things work at our club, our recruitment team are an absolute shambles and have severely let Cocu down this season. I think the problem is deeper than just needing a goalscoring striker. Even a top striker would struggle in our team. look at tonights game, numerous crosses into the box and the only one there is rooney. Our strikers get no support it was exactly the same when marriott played. disagree with you on the recruitment side. think its actually been fairly decent this summer. On paper we have very good players goldstar, Edtheram and r_wilcockson 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Topram 2,820 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Let him get a good run of games with Beliek Ibe Jozwaik Waghorn Lawrence back in ariotofmyown, Uptherams, thelovebelow and 7 others 8 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tyler Durden 2,281 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, CBRammette said: I dont think they do. I think people just fed up of constant managerial changes, realise he's had lots to deal with and happy with how the youngsters are starting to come through so Phil given chance. The striker position is worrying, unless they have seen duncan like a young michael owen in training, but that may not be Phil's fault Isn't that the issue though? We seem to be regressing very rapidly towards a Nigel Clough scenario again when he never was going to leave but never really was going to push any boundaries and we got used a boring steady brand of football and players. Owd miner and Turnstile 2 Link to post Share on other sites
RamNut 17,545 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, Topram said: Let him get a good run of games with Beliek Ibe Jozwaik Waghorn Lawrence back in Wow. With all of them back in there will be no room for bird, knight, sibley, and Rooney. Link to post Share on other sites
MikeS 139 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dean Saunder’s hat trick said: Christmas for me is the minimum ....to ensure relegation? Has to be by end of November. Finch, mrdave85, rammieib and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DublinRam 31 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I think even with the players back he has a fear of losing and plays too negative, I am starting to lose patience and sure Mel won’t take too long to pull the trigger Hector was the best and Edtheram 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo Ram 2,991 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Topram said: Let him get a good run of games with Beliek Ibe Jozwaik Waghorn Lawrence back in Indeed, patience needed. If it is still painful to watch and the results poor then maybe need to think again at Christmas. But let’s see how the team does when we are at full strength. Justa and Topram 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ramslad1992 1,722 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Would be peak Derby to sack a manager as soon as the transfer window has shut. i wouldn’t sack him personally as we need stability, there’s also the question on whether we could afford to sack him. Link to post Share on other sites
Abu Derby 1,100 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 10 games max. Link to post Share on other sites
Finch 245 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Can't see many points in the next 6 games so it may well happen sooner than later. Turnstile 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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